Advice for chancing kids for Ivies

Chance Me / Match Me
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<p>I have seen this common and misleading reply all across this sub-forum:</p>

<p>“The Ivies are unpredictable”
The Ivies take in their applicants based on SAT scores, grades, leadership, awards, activities, and volunteer hours. Their selective choices are not arbitrary - they simply pick the best 8-20% of applicants. They are completely predictable and respectable in their selections. </p>

<p>That being said, this type of response is usually used to say “I don’t know, but I’m replying here only because you offered to chance me back.” Another synonymous phrase that is essentially the same is “The Ivies are crapshoots.” Please avoid using this, and instead employ SAT trends, and the Ivy standard of ECs and grades. You can get a feel of this through research, or by observing “result” threads of many schools. For example, harvard, yale, and princeton - check these out.</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/318707-official-princeton-rd-decisions-class-11-a-7.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/princeton-university/318707-official-princeton-rd-decisions-class-11-a-7.html&lt;/a&gt;
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<p>Another horrible reply I’ve seen is
“I know someone who got in with similar stats” in defense of someone with sub-par scores. Facts are facts, standards are standards. Every kid gets in for a reason. </p>

<p>Another thing - if you don’t know anything about the statistics of schools - don’t even chance! I’ve seen tons of kids (usually with <50 posts) give predictions that simply aren’t realistic. A 2050 SAT 1 Asian applying to harvard, with no stellar ECs? NO! </p>

<p>Lastly - we’re here to give accurate predictions based on concrete trends and statistics. No point in giving false hope. And no point in looking for false hope.</p>

<p>Anyways, happy chancing! Perhaps the quality of chancing will increase.</p>

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<p>I vote that this should be stickied.</p>

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<p>You know, the mods are unpredictable. Getting a thread stickied is a crapshoot. Although, I do know someone with similar stats who got their thread sticked.</p>

<p>GL!</p>

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<p>These are good advices for giving chances. But the logic I don’t understand about “chancing” is that, how are you good enough to chance someone else if you do not confident enough in your own ability to chance yourself, the person you should know the best? Maybe it’s just me, but I don’t see the logic in “I’ll chance back.”</p>

<p>What I also see a lot is this – people just say match for those well-rounded applicants. Have you observed the trend of Ivy ECs? Stellar ECs are almost musts nowadays. THOUSANDS of well-rounded applicants with good ECs and scores overall but no STELLAR parts apply every year. How many of them actually get in? Not a whole lot. This is just like giving a person false hope.</p>

<p>I see those “I’ve seen another person with similar …” chances too. There are so many variables that play into acceptance/rejection. Essay, rec letters, blah blah blah. Simple cut down resume on the forums is not enough to really accurately chance somebody, let alone compare to another person.</p>

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<p>LOL</p>

<p>And I agree with geekorathletic. If you can chance someone else, you can chance yourself</p>