<p>I am a HS senior from Guam. I am a U.S. citizen. </p>
<p>Stats:
-29 ACT
-rank >10
-4 on AP Calc AB
-4.39 weighted GPA
-(3.75> tentative unweighted)
-has ec and volunteer
-need engineering college </p>
<p>Background:
I have applied to several early actions schools in the U.S… I have strategically applied to schools that have cheaper out-of-state tuition, thorough information on merit aid scholarships, and meets the ACT cutoff. I have taken an extra ACT to get larger financial aid package. Hopefully, I get admitted and I get a “sufficient” financial aid package.</p>
<p>Back-up plan:
(1) Gain general education requirements at local community college (Guam Community College (GCC)), transfer to a 4-year college in the U.S., and transfer credits.
(2) Gain general education requirements at 4-year community college (University of Guam (UOG)), transfer to a 4-year college in the U.S., and transfer credits. This might be cheaper than (1) if I get a full ride merit scholarship from being top 10.
(3) Apply to community college to a certain state in the U.S., gain general education requirements, and transfer to 4-year college in that same state.</p>
<p>Question:
(a) Can I transfer GCC credits to a 4-year college in the U.S.? Is (1) feasible? (Most likely the cheapest of the three, if I dont get a merit scholarship to UOG)
(b) Can I transfer UOG credits to a 4-year college in the U.S.? Is (2) feasible?
(c) Is (3) the easiest (defined by me as highest admission rate to the 4-year college) way? </p>
<p>Is (1) “harder” (harder defined, by me, as lower admission chance) than (2) or (3)? Which is the easiest? </p>
<p>*Note UOG and GCC has no engineering program—just a “pre-engineering” program.</p>
<p>Engineering has a fixed set of classes that you need to take; typically, Calculus I, II, III (or I&II), calculus-based physics, chemistry, English Composition. Can you take those at UOG?
I assume that UOG credits would transfer better if they are more rigorous than GCC’s.
Tranfers from out-of-state community colleges or universities are also more difficult than transfers from a community college that has an agreement with a university - for example, Virginia Piedmont CC has an agreement with UVA, and being a US citizen you’d qualify for financial aid (only UVA and UNC-CH provide 100% need for out of state students). So if you maintained a high GPA in your prerequisite courses, you could transfer to UVA. Same for UNC-CH, they have an agreement called “C-Step” with 9 community colleges: [Carolina</a> Student Transfer Excellence Program (C-STEP) | University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill | Office of Undergraduate Admissions](<a href=“http://admissions.unc.edu/apply/transfer-students/carolina-student-transfer-excellence-program-c-step/]Carolina”>Applying to C-STEP - Undergraduate Admissions)
Both indicate that transferring credits from out of state community colleges is subject to approval and for Guam in addition you’d have to pay for an official agency to evaluate your credentials.
However attending community college from out of state is likely more expensive than attending UOG.</p>
<p>UOG has Calculus I, Calculus II and other MA300+ [URL="<a href="http://www.uogonline.com/gateway/forms/uog_ug_catalog_0809.pdf"]classes[/URL">http://www.uogonline.com/gateway/forms/uog_ug_catalog_0809.pdf"]classes[/URL</a>]. They also have physics based calculus, chemistry , and English Composition. </p>
<p>Is the admission chances of community college in the U.S. higher than chances of a 4-year college in the U.S.?</p>
<p>MYOS1634 -</p>
<p>Both GCC and UIG are fully accredited by the Western Association of Schools and Colleges so there is no need for JESATPREP to pay one cent for transcript evaluation. The credits will transfer (or not transfer) exactly as they would for any other accredited US college or university:
[Accreditation</a> - Guam Community College](<a href=“http://www.guamcc.edu/Runtime/accreditation.aspx]Accreditation”>http://www.guamcc.edu/Runtime/accreditation.aspx)
[url=<a href=“http://www.uog.edu/dynamicdata/prospectivestudents.aspx?siteid=1&p=43]ProspectiveStudents[/url”>http://www.uog.edu/dynamicdata/prospectivestudents.aspx?siteid=1&p=43]ProspectiveStudents[/url</a>] </p>
<p>JESATPREP -</p>
<p>Since you have the specific goal of transferring into an Engineering program, you should pay a visit to the Transfer Advisor at GCC, and find out where the pre-engineering students finish their studies. Ask if there an articulation agreement with at least one college or university in another US state or territory for that major because it isn’t offered at UOG.</p>
<p>Happymomof1-</p>
<p>I totally forgot about the transfer agreement with [UOG</a> and Iowa State](<a href=“http://www.uog.edu/admin/assetmanager/images/cnas/uoguiagreement.pdf"]UOG”>http://www.uog.edu/admin/assetmanager/images/cnas/uoguiagreement.pdf). </p>
<p>And do you know if getting to community college in that U.S. is easier than getting into a 4-year college?</p>
<p>JESATPREP -</p>
<p>Just like on Guam, the community colleges in the rest of the US and US territories normally are open admission. Sometimes specific majors, such as Nursing, are selective. Pre-engineering wouldn’t be.</p>
<p>If you can identify an affordable public U that has an articulation agreement for engineering with an affordable community college, that can be a decent back-up plan. The issue will be financial (you will almost certainly be considered out-of-state), and given that most community colleges don’t have housing, there will be the hassle of finding somewhere affordable to live for those first two years.</p>
<p>Did you look through the threads on guaranteed merit-based aid in the Financial Aid Forum? Your stats as they are can get you full tuition and fees, if not a complete full ride at several places: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/1348012-automatic-full-tuition-full-ride-scholarships-20.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/financial-aid-scholarships/1348012-automatic-full-tuition-full-ride-scholarships-20.html</a></p>
<p>That transfer agreement looks to be between UOG and the University of Iowa in Iowa City, rather than UOG and Iowa State University in Ames. In either case, that would be worth checking out. Find out what your costs would be once you had transferred there. Also, get some advice on your clothing budget. You would need warm clothing for the cold midwestern winter!</p>
<p>Yes I have checked those schools. How can I tell if they have strong engineering programs?</p>
<p>ABET accreditation sets a reasonably high baseline for engineering degree programs. Within the range of ABET accredited engineering degree programs, you might find “good” and “very good” (which can depend on the student’s characteristics and interests), rather than “bad” and “good” that you might find with some other majors.</p>
<p>[ABET</a> -](<a href=“http://www.abet.org/]ABET”>http://www.abet.org/)</p>
<p>Click on the tab labeled Accreditation to find the search engine. It is down right now for service, but I’d expect it to be back up tomorrow.</p>
<p>I grew up in Iowa, so I am biased. I’d vote for either ISU or U of I provided you remember to dress warmly!</p>
<p>Note that Iowa State is less expensive than University of Iowa.</p>
<p>Thank you everyone!</p>