<p>Hi all. After today’s phone call I have two questions which I would like to post separately, please.
New Cadet may not pass AFT, not too worried about it though, but he says if not then no walking privileges on A-Day which means we cannot see him at all. Is this true? Could we at least pass off some supplies or no contact at all. And will he have an opportunity to pass it before the Labor Day weekend?</p>
<p>I assume you mean the APFT. It is still early, but he NEEDS to pass that APFT. He will be tested during Beast, in the fall term, and in the spring term. There are privileges that get taken away when a cadet fails this test. As the year progresses the situation becomes more and more serious, and more and more privilages go away. A current cadet or recent grad can probably give more details. Below is from the DPE “Whitebook”</p>
<p>“Any cadet who fails the APFT will have up to 90-days to remediate the failure. A cadet who
fails a record APFT will be placed on the Testing Offices 90-day retest roster and tracked by the
Testing Office. APFT failures will be enrolled In the Commandants Physical Remedial
Program (CPRP) for a minimum of six weeks. The cadet may elect to test at the end of six
weeks or can remain in the program until they test at 90 days. If the cadet passes the test, he/she
will be removed from the 90-day retest roster; however, for purposes of the PPSY, the original
failing grade will stand. If the cadet fails the retest, he/she is subject to separation …CPRP is a physical remedial program designed to remediate APFT failures so cadets can pass the
APFT at the minimum standards. Through participation in the program, cadets will be
intrinsically motivated to maintain their personal fitness…Cadets who fail either their Spring or Fall record APFT will automatically be enrolled in CPRP.
The Master of Sword will review the enrollment list and the Commandant will approve the final
candidates. Corps Squad athletes will be excused from the program on a case-by-case basis.”</p>
<p>One of the big privilages that can go away is summer leave after the academic year.</p>
<p>I suggest you post your question on the USMA Parent-Plebe net if you belong to it. If not, I highly recommend signing up for the no-cost network. The moderators will be able to quickly give you an authoritative answer.</p>
<p>My unofficial understanding is that cadets without Walking Privileges can still walk around inside the post unless they have been restricted to barracks. However, they can’t go outside the post’s gates. If that’s correct, you should be able to see your son and even go to the post exchange, Grant Hall and even the Thayer Hotel.</p>
<p>But again, check with the Parent-Plebe net.</p>
<p>Walking Privileges means that you can leave post. However, there are other costs associated with failing the APFT. If your son does, when he is enrolled in CZCP or CPRP (Depending on the severity of his failure) he will earn a physical D for the semester, instead of an IM grade. It’s also going to reflect badly on him in general and put him behind in the race for the almighty class rank. This is in addition to the F from the APFT. What event is he having problems in? </p>
<p>The first day of the program involves a retest. If he passes, he will regain his privledges in time for Labor Day. If he does NOT pass the initial retest, he will remain on restriction and in the program. At the end of the program, he will take the APFT again. If he does not pass the second time around, they will probably separate him. </p>
<p>You mentioned he’s not concerned…He should be. Encourage him to buckle down. I’m sure his cadre is doing all they can to increase his pushup and situp scores.</p>
<p>bzzzt,
Thanks for the info. I didn’t mean to imply he was not aware of the importance of the test. He very mcuh is. But that he wasn’t too concerned about increasing his score. He said he needs to increase his pushups by 10. He was surprised at his score since his test for admission was better. He thinks he was nervous, tired, and perhaps overadrenalined out. I was asking because I wanted to know whether to bring everything to A-Day or mail it if we don’t get to see him. We will still go and I hope for him he finishes strong. But I am certain he is focusing on improving. Thanks.</p>
<p>it appears that the cadre may have put the ‘fear of god’ into the NCs. My cadet mentioned also the loss fo priveledges in the event of a ‘failed’ APFT. as WP2010 says he isnt worried about it --as in he isnt that worried about not passing, he feels comfortable that he will pass … he just seemed complelled to tell us this … which suggests that it was a big topic the cadre impressed on them</p>
<p>Oh, ok. Much more understandable. Yes, their APFT scores should rocket from the first one to the second one. I’m sure your New Cadets will be fine!</p>