After the launch

<p>smarty! you beat me, I was spell checking on this bit</p>

<p>good morning my head is fuzzy… days and nights are blur…
G
it sound MICA do alot to entertaining parents. I guess they’d have to assure and reassure your $ spent is all worth it.
I love the fact they offer insight for what they teach, not those star alum talk or fancy free luncheons. thou food is always nice and quite strong on my list, or good coffee/cookies and free internet access for outsiders.
I still wonder if the grudge I hold against UCLA was from lack of public computer, and certain Pacific northwest school favoritism was the admissions’ coffee!? !? !? </p>

<p>Barney ( now it stuck, hahaha)
If you are serious, I will love you more and more for I did ask my prof who suggested I should switch to it -
“What’s the Liquitex? (then hottest acrylics paints)” because I honesty did not know. fellow students rolled their eyes but he loved me for it, if only that once.
It did not fly second time, I learned my lesson quick.
Whitney is Whitney Museum of American Art in the NYC. do studio residency and biennial shows to promote newly discovered artists and chosen to be in it is a big-o-deal.
Chelsea is the area westside of downtown Manhattan between 14-sh street up to what, 28-30-sh? wikipedia would know better.
in the art sense, area near the Hudson liver where those people who want things happen-ing got lofts that were used to be factories and warehouses and such converted into studios and show places.
nowadays biggest contemporary galleries are lining streets and all them fancy people would come, admire, deal and buy those weird looking art, chicken wires or shriveled bunch of carrots. (we saw them, they really were carrots!!!)</p>

<p>yes you are right, I haven’t been here long to say" there goes neighborhood" and I like all those weird galleries, but things are changed even while my kid is growing up, the school he went was used to be in “Hell’s kitchen” now that name is ditched- it is right above Chelsea, which shared simmmilar trait before art and Chelsea piers ( fancy sports complex) happened.
there still are housing projects (think “precious” thou not that bad) wellfare hotels, shelters, parks with people sleeping in it and ocassional human dungs on corner of subway stairs landing.
but rent, food price etc is no longer affordable at all at all. the first NYC Wholefoods was opened in Chelsea, if I am not mistaken.</p>

<p>smarty
what do you think of Barney’s work? do tell do tell
I usually don’t get conceptu contemps but I do feel and like it don’ no why.
you mean “she” me, or her? wasn’t clear what you said^?</p>

<p>G-mom, we will see you there next year! And the nude model was quite uneventful, which I credit to her poise and the teacher’s nonchalance about it all. He also mentioned at one point that the school this year has record numbers of transfer students, students taking a gap year before they start, or a gap year while they’re there. Something about the economy and other factors. Take heart!</p>

<p>Bears, I remember when Chelsea was the flower district and most famous for that infamous hotel where Sid killed Nancy. Is that a boutique hotel now?</p>

<p>bears:
Basquiat you mean Jean-Michel Basquiat? get to know Eva Hesse from you post also. I googled them and it is interesting!</p>

<p>greenwitch:
It is nice MICA have the parent’s weekend! Too bad Cooper didn’t have it.</p>

<p>Barney:
Your work is COOL! I love it but I am Computer Science Person, focus on making programming/design/architecture of software. I think Gmom is right, having observation piece in your portfolio will help</p>

<p>hi G
it’s still there flowers and the hotel.
flowers are on side streets, on avenues are now condos, starbucks, buybuy baby, Chipotle, fancy foods and artisan pizza place
Chelsea hotel looks the same. maybe keeping exactly the way it have been is their way of “boutique” -ing?
there is reservation link and I wanted to know how much the night would cost, my Mac won’t open it, will report later.</p>

<p>heheheh love, don’t call her Barney!!<br>
hahaha let’s all call her Barney!!!
I think Barney done applying by now, maybe doing Cooper test as we speak?
I bet traditional observational drawings aren’t her thing. she can learn it if she wants and I think she should, but these days I really not sure, if anyone need it!?!?!
tell here Barney about your D’s SAIC ECP or dilemma about 22K deadline!? WashU $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ she dumped because of Cooper…
you don’t have to if you don’t want to. do tell!</p>

<p>now I see that most frequent “launch” ers are parents with not much art background! science, med, health, engineer, IT, economy, library science, what else but somehow kids were gotten in top schools with merits. what this supposed to mean? ( cold sweat runs bear’s bare back dripdrip)
Barney, what’s your folks do?</p>

<p>love
I have super nosy-ness to wanting to know how and when artists become that, so when I see something or hear something, I’d read biography or articles, ask around, etc to see if there is any clue.
Eva Hesse went same HS as my kid long time ago but noone knows who she is at the school, which made me interested in her and saw her photo of Park Place Gallery Group, she in simple dress and nice (really)legs to T strap shoes among dandy dozen or so guys posing around her, made me die of envy.
I do like her paintings, not so much of rubber gunk-y things she is known for.
Jean-Michel Basquiat was our rock star artist when we were young and restless in peaceful, drugless Tokyo. We were clueless.
Now I have few friend’s friend actually had some contact with him and what been real is harder to digest.
then again, real, is “real” to that one parson, I never know what it is like if I did gotten to know Eva or Basquiat or anyone.
Maybe that’s it? they are dead young, live in legends and history, so I love them more? that’s not so good.</p>

<p>Hahaha I am cool with you all calling me Barney.</p>

<p>In terms of my drawing skills- not stellar, but I have been drawing for some time, and they are much better than they used to be. I have forseen the foundation years ahead… I didnt want to be defeated completely by them. I can post my bicycle drawing when i am done!
For my portfolio, I submitted a couple of watercolor paintings of abandoned steel plants and industrial oil drums, etc. Not really your traditional observational work (no bowl of fruit for me) but I did do them in observation - I guess that is what I consider them to be…
Thanks, Gmom! I will think about it when I am finishing up my cooper portfolio.</p>

<p>My parents are both teachers- my mom is a public school counselor & my dad is a statistics and sociology prof @ a UMich branch. I was raised with a great appreciation for science, art, and culture.</p>

<p>more cold sweat drip… drip… drip…</p>

<p>From what I saw of your drawing and painting in your portfolio I think your drawing skills are actually quite strong, that combined with the conceptual pieces explains why SAIC loved you and I think you would probably be a good fit there. Bears asked what I thought about Cooper, Cooper is hard to predict but if you do similar work on your hometest and really work it I think you have a very good shot at Cooper with that portfolio. Both Cooper and SAIC are big on conceptual and your pieces are actually very mature in approach and thought. Again don’t bank on Cooper for anything until there’s a letter in your hand but I’d say work real real hard on that home test if you haven’t finished already because I think you’re in the ballpark for Cooper. Strong work.</p>

<p>sweat frozen icicles.
9 days to deadline, nothing done, kid in bed no care in the world, house in chaos.
clementine peels, pone dirty sock ( found after laundry done) unwashed lunch pail, fuzzy mommy made rejected stuffed bow-tie for school concert, few view books from minor artschools piled and scattered, birthday money check will be voided for this is just family joke and never to deposit it for they got no balance in the account, dental floss, Tombo hude-pen he " borrowed" from Cooper class…
will be or won’t be… oops he’s up
time to eat ( wagwagwag)</p>

<p>Artsmarts, thanks for your opinion! I like it when people are honest with me. And I really appreciate what you said about me & Cooper… I sometimes feel like I am chipping away at something completely unnatainable, and it can get frustrating. Much much thanks.</p>

<p>In terms of NYC, I have never been… I am quite ignorant about that neck of the woods. Unfortunately I dont get out of this small town as much as I would like… Very interesting about the art galleries changing the dynamic of the neighborhood, though! Interesting indeed. </p>

<p>Back to work! I will not let this hometest defeat me!</p>

<p>Bears, I know you have a deadline coming up at work… so perhaps that’s the mysterious deadline you refer to… I’m overly familiar with kids in bed and house in chaos (that’s an everyday thing around here)… also the socks that missed the laundry – usually they turn up in odd places like between the sofa cushions or under the kitchen table. </p>

<p>Cold sweat really that cold? Sweat icicles? Brrr. Looks like we’re going to have a thaw later in the week, so I’ll have to factor in muddy dogs and muddy shoes.</p>

<p>Will be or won’t be what? </p>

<p>What is your kid doing anyway? Loose ends like my D1 maybe.</p>

<p>Whole downstairs still, yet still, inundated with MICA dorm stuff. Puts a scowl on my face everytime I have to walk by it all. </p>

<p>I told/suggested to D1 that she might start with taking the risers she had for her bed at MICA and using them on her bed here – she’d gain so much more room under her bed for storage if she did that… then she could commence putting things away. Still nothing happens. It’s like that cooper exercise of watching paint dry. Watching D1 do something/anything.</p>

<p>Aspie girl’s social worker is going to take D1 to downtown Peekskill this week and ‘introduce’ her to the art community there. Apparently the social worker has some sort of connections. Hmm. we’ll see.</p>

<p>Gmom
no, and yes.
no, 9days to his Cooper hometest due.
I was awake at home between work, chores and bit of sleeping at the time I wrote that^ I thought it will be nice to make and eat hot brunch (so white) together, then looked around the table I am at and all those^ things ever put away- “lone sock” mistyped “pone sock” in hurry, LOL sounds like porn sock!?
he is doing rather fine, passed math (phew, can be outa HS in June) just that, why not, like, do it like Barney for once in his lifetime?
He is immune to assignment, or allergic to.
anyways
yes, I got deadline, every few days or in stretch of week or so, like Eeyoe with gray rain cloud over his head no matter what. It almost never get to me like this.
It is rough this time maybe my hormone, non-custodial profile pressure, or I do now understand that Cooper is not perfect paradise on Earth for some sort of kid, and that might just be mine, no matter how much I wanted to it might never to be attained.
It is not about free money I been sad about (I do admit before, it was) not anymore. purpose of life? slipping away like sand between fingers?
OK
back to work…</p>

<p>You’ll be fine in NY if Cooper works out. SAIC though, as I said, would be a good fit for you I think, workwise at least, and they’ve really indicated that they would like you. And SAIC’s facilities and neighborhood are wonderful in my opinion. Having that museum right there is really a plus.</p>

<p>If I could give you a tip, do a piece or two using the same drawing skills you did in “Burn”. That piece shows a lot of strength in terms of traditional light/dark/mix of realism/abstract techniques. It’s a very strong piece and I’m sure you can translate those techniques to other sorts of images easily. But definitely keep going, your mix of conceptual combined with the skills shown in Burn make you a good fit for either SAIC or Cooper. As I said you can never predict so just do what you think is your best work on that home test…you can’t predict what will appeal to Cooper anyway so just follow your own best instincts and see where it leads you. Good luck.</p>

<p>The above post was for Barnesy…can’t seem to get these to follow the original posts.</p>

<p>yep especially all these off topic rambling poster(s) getting in your way, heheheh
smarty! come take “your whiteness test” in the Cooper thread! my guess is you are 70-80%</p>

<p>Bears Bears Bears
You would be quite surprised, took a look through and a quick run through, now first of all I find this “test” quite simplistic and actually a little weird, I know it’s supposed to be fun but Bears if this is a test for “white” meaning that the more of these items you knock off the more “white” as in white person it makes you…then this test is also a little hmmmmmm racist perhaps, or skewed against certain values attributed to that sub-group “yuppies” or let’s say educated people with money. It’s stereotypes, it’s also assuming that it’s somehow more white to like organic food or books or coffee or whatever. From my personal experience most of these things I find here I don’t attribute to being “white”, but I see a certain assumption about life styles that fit into your world view. I don’t do stereotypes but I’m definitely low on the meter anyway. Sorry to be a grinch about this.</p>

<p>“or skewed against certain values attributed to that sub-group “yuppies” or let’s say educated people with money.”
By this I mean that I find this “test” in many ways not about being “white” but about belonging to a certain socio-economic class that would include anyone with a certain educational and ecnomic status. Lordie Lordie I think perhaps I’m making too much of this but had to sound off…and again sorry for the grinchiness.</p>

<p>Bears, hello bears, are you there?
I’m hoping I didn’t either 1. make you mad at me with my comments, a mad bears is a frightening thought or 2. hurt your feelings, I like you bears I really do.
Just my own personal take on these sorts of personality “tests”.</p>