<p>Sorry, I missed reading a whole page when I jumped in with conceptual art comment!</p>
<p>Gmom - Like your “test” idea. Great story!</p>
<p>Great story Gmom! A test - yes send him off on a quest to prove his worthiness. Such a great old idea. </p>
<p>I agree with the social worker’s suggestions although I feel for you. It may be quite a waiting game. Trying to enforce teenagers to do anything… well, that’s our test to pass isn’t it? We do the no shoe thing too, but H is always ignoring it. Then I’ll find mud on the stairs and he’ll blame the dogs until I show him the perfect little triangle of mud, embossed with the shoe company’s logo! </p>
<p>I don’t know how conceptual it is, but D2 did a project recently at Mica that involved pasties. Not the Cornish kind! Apparently she made many pairs and photographed them on various friends (no faces). I’m dying to see those photos but she hasn’t shared them with me yet.</p>
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did it show?
Ramune , is short Japlish name for lemonade.
Japanese wikipedia says, it goes back history 1850s when commodore Perry came to Japan and shown off soda water to ladies.
Japanese made it their own packing in special bottles.
glass marble is part of the package. it was put on the bottle before bottle mouth is narrowed by heat ( so marble stays forever inside and the bottle get refilled and reused)
after put soda water in the bottle, turn upside down that makes marble stuck to the rubber cap forced by the gas from the soda,so to seal the drink inside.
It was cool until they figured out soda caps we got today. nowadays, you have to separate recyclables and marbles do come out by twisting plastic support.
It tastes like lemony 7up. You can find it in Asian grocery stores.
hummm hospitality. I like that attitude. bet the boy suggested to stock up with it to amuse manga girl. I knew a boy did the same, but he was also addicted to ramune.
looking good looking good. now invite him over!!</p>
<p>no show, how about this?
[ramune</a> - Google Search](<a href=“http://www.google.com/images?q=ramune&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1642&bih=838]ramune”>http://www.google.com/images?q=ramune&oe=utf-8&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=og&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wi&biw=1642&bih=838)
and english wikipedia, of course
<a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramune[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramune</a></p>
<p>Hi guys!
I have returned from the secluded world that is the Cooper hometest!</p>
<p>So my app arrived on time today in NYC! Thank goodness, because the weather here in the mitten of misery has been AWFUL, and I was getting worried.</p>
<p>It just feels so good to be done. I dont know how confident I feel about my hometest, though. (I would post photos, but I was so rushed I didnt take any). I spent a lot of time on it, but I still feel like it could have been better.</p>
<p>And I was really upset because I didnt know that the 5 required portfolio materials needed to be originals & physically sent to the school, so I ended up having to send in some 2D work that I am not very confident in simply because I didnt have too much that would fit into the envelope (most of my paintings are quite large).
I also sent in photos of my sculpture as the “optional additional portfolio materials”, though- I hope that they take into consideration that I am applying to the sculpture program…</p>
<p>As of right now, I am very nervous, not very confident in my submitted application, but very relieved to be DONE.</p>
<p>Relax, what will be will be…</p>
<p>Yeah that’s getting close. And I’m not commenting “out of school” because I was guilty of the same but because of my age much more sedate types of things at art school. But the fine line here as I see it from my older more jaded perspective is when a young artist (usually female) does a concept around let’s say sexual exploitation of women and in the process is putting herself into a position of being sexually exploited. And where it would get really dicey for me is when there are professors rabidly encouraging this sort of concept. Ah heck, you know what I’m just no fun anymore am I?</p>
<p>My “getting close” comment is directed to the pastie photos concept “piece.”</p>
<p>smarty, I beg you go see “Black Swan”
these s*it continues historically because audience love seeing that stuff if said girl is Natalie Portman-sh</p>
<p>cograts Barney!!
you never know. shame you never get to come to their own review to let them geezers know who you are and what you are made of.
my kid did not turn it in. (long story)
my scheme of you two meeting in what you call, Cooper freshman group is now officially crashed. (retreat with tail between legs)
Tiger/Dragon (my birth year)/Bunny (if counted in Chinese calendar, it’s my year)/bears and dogs - mom defeated…
good note, now I can go to galleries and get back to hijacked Cooper thread 100 view counts.</p>
<p>I think D1 would have died a thousand deaths before she’d take on a pastie project at MICA. That would be just too much for her to handle. She’s still pretty much holed up in her room. I did ‘help’ and consolidated a lot of the dorm items that were littering the family room. I got it down to one under the bed tub thing, one large box, the freezer, and the umbrella stand. D1’s room doesn’t show much progress though. She did get out her field easel and set that up smack in the middle of her room. Interesting that she’s choosing to paint in there instead of in the downstairs kitchen where she used to paint all the time (yes, we bought a house with two kitchens – there’s a mother-in-law unit downstairs where D1 is. The thought was that we’d be able to still feed the celiacs when the main kitchen got renovated because there would be this second kitchen – but the renovation thing is on an indefinite hold – I’ve been waiting for (lets see) eleven years-- at one point I had everything planned and priced out – and then DH pulled the plug on the whole thing. But again, I digress – or veer off onto a totally unrelated subject).
Bears, that ramune is what manga-girl was so excited about. She told me there’s a store in White Plains that sells it (and apparently where manga-boy’s mama-san got it). So she’s itching to go to White Plains and see what other ‘cool Japanese stuff’ there is. As for the ‘next’ time… I guess that’s in the planning stages. I’ll be gone for two weeks so who knows what kind of plot the chickling will hatch. DH better keep an eye on her. Just kidding, though, she’s a good egg.
Ok, back to work…</p>
<p>Barney…Congratulations! no way my S had the organizational skills to complete the home test…his refusal to part with his sketch book during last half of IB Art was understandable but definitely an excuse to avoid the whole torture of the home test. </p>
<p>Pasties…I don’t even want to think what my S may think up as an extension of that project so I won’t mention it to him. </p>
<p>G-mom thanks for the update on the manga girl friendship/romance and now I know about Japanese drinks (bandD!)…I thought it was some type of bubble drink but was awed that it really was a marble and the history behind it…made me feel my brain expand a little today. trivia but interesting trivia.</p>
<p>G-mom, I too have tried the “ignore” rather than nag approach with poor results. I hate it when dishes don’t get put into the dishwasher and have, sometimes, just let them sit at the table, the desk or in the sink with the crazy hope that H and Kids will be sickened by them, like me, and feel compelled to take care of them eventually. HA! their tolerance for mess is just so much higher than mine that I usually cave and pick them up eventually. </p>
<p>Also, my family seems to be able to go without eating rather than cook or clean…I swear that I will not lift a finger to prepare food for them unless some task is completed, but I eventually break down because I can’t bear how thin they are and then they don’t even seem to mind missing a meal or eating some junk rather than actually cook something or clean something. It would be so easy to do this if they actually cared about food… The only thing that has worked, somewhat, is refusal to take anyone anywhere until a task is finished. I also hate being late and it is hard to stick to my guns, but it is quite effective when deployed infrequently and without compromise. D knows that she is grounded this weekend until a miracle happens in her room and she sorts through her closet for all the small clothes/shoes…she has stuff from 6th grade in there! Saturday morning is likely to be a whirlwind of activity so that she can go out on Saturday night. It probably will not be done as thouroughly or neatly as I want but I expect to see garbage bags of shoes and clothes and even toys (she can tell me if I can sell or give away the ds and associated games).</p>
<p>Funny how common our problems are! A friend introduced me to that FlyLady website years ago and while I can never manage to keep up with the cleaning schedule, one thing I did take away was to break the odious task into 10-15 minute segments. So, when I look at the bedrooms where walking across is like stepping on stones across a creek, I ask for 10 mins of concentrated cleaning on area X and at least that way we see some progress. </p>
<p>Youngest is a manga afficionado too. Learned about Ramune a few years ago. Her friend gave her one and the plastic top came off. Thinking it was trash, I threw it out. Try opening the bottle without it…can you say mess?</p>
<p>Thanks guys! As I said, HUGE relief. And now I wait…</p>
<p>Bears, I am sorry your son wasn’t able to turn it in! I would have liked to meet him as well. Any idea where he will be going next year since not CU?</p>
<p>Fineartsmom, I almost had the same issue with my sketchbook, but it was a tad easier because my school does not offer AP/IB Art classes. In fact, I didn’t even know College Board offered AP classes in studio art until this past summer! Talk about living under a rock…</p>
<p>my son completed his hometest last year while he had mono. I couldnt bear to watch the progress or lack of, so he went to live with his gma (low key artist who is also a night owl) He would sleep all day, then work all night. She would stay up all night too, working in her studio, or noodling on the internet, and keeping him company. Most of the was thinking about it for three weeks, executing it for 1 week. Before he left for gma’s there was one day that I watched him sit in a chair for an entire day trying to get his brain around one of the ideas. Its a good thing I wasnt there for the execution, because I can not keep my mouth shut, and I would have talked him out of some of what he did, or pushed him to do something else. I didnt love his hometest. I thought it was odd and conceptual and didnt show his painterly skills. But the essay questions he answered made my jaw drop. He ended up getting in, so I guess the one piece of advice I gave him, which was be himself, was helpful. </p>
<p>Good luck Barney!!!</p>
<p>Barney et al…I look back on the stress of the application period last year and am both glad and sad that D will not be doing the fine arts route. No coopers for her and no home test–first, no to engineering for sure (this morning as I tried to make light breakfast conversation she told me not to bother explaining why logs were useful functions because she just wanted to get the right answer…sigh) and she thinks one artist is enough…she is convinced that she is not as creative/smart as brother but I actually have more of her art on my wall than his (in part because his is not always appropriate for office or home). Anyway…coopers doesn’t have greek system so unlikely to appeal to her.<br>
There may be a photo portfolio in her future since she plans to do 4 years of photo in HS…who knew that there was such a thing as AP Photo(?) in a school with no dark room… </p>
<p>I think I will be more laid back with number 2 but don’t count on it. I found it incredibly frustrating to watch S throw together application materials and scavenge for portfolio stuff at the last minute …it would have been a relief to have sent him away for portions of last year. As it was I saw him throw together one important application/essay in 15 minutes to make the deadline. I was practically tearing my hair out.</p>
<p>How will it be to be on one of the non-arts forums in a year of so?..Not sure which one I will feel the need to vent on…D is like Manga girl and will probably do it all well in advance and be hyper organized making me more calm but feeling obsolete. I will probably settle with reading through the various college forums so I can feel “involved”; I will have to come up with a new nom de plume since FAMM has been outed. Ideas?
“trideltwannabemamma”?</p>
<p>I only got one weekend out 2/18-2/22 in NYC. There are so many postings!</p>
<p>FAMM:
I told my D I am boring since she is not around and I got addicted to this forum. She said: “I am happy you find something you enjoy!”. I shared some of our conversation with her and she is fine with it. She didn’t care that much about it. I love you name and maybe they didn’t care about searching us as parent at all, so no need to worry about. maybe this is because my D never interested in CC.
I admire your D didn’t do art, art is too hard to make a living. I still remember our conversation in her junior year when she was ponding on art or law, giving me some false hope.</p>
<p>Update on my trip:
D and me stayed in a hotel for 4 nights. I kind of feel the old time come back when she was little. When we walked outside, she would hold my hand all the time. If it was too cold, she would put her hand in my pocket to keep on holding my hand. I did feel sweet! </p>
<p>She is doing fine with her school work but looks like didn’t have a good social life. luckily she is fine with her roommates. They are still talking about live together next year. Her class schedule is conflict with Cooper Christian meeting and she hasn’t settle down with a church. She didn’t like the church I recommended. I just have to pray that God can bring her to a small Church and she can have a right Christian group to grow her faith. Sorry if you are not Christian, but this is really my worry.</p>
<p>We talked about conceptual art also. D said it is dated but not sure what will be the next. We went to Guggenheim and D said the architecture is more interesting compared to the art. we watched a movie “I am number 4”, which is so,so.</p>
<p>Really wish I can be close to her, but Iowa is way to far. I did joke with her about searching for a new job in east coast and she said no, don’t chase me around…</p>
<p>I know someone doing book art that is supposed to be published and made pile of money from royalty. what happen was that middleman made the artist sign phonebook-thick contract and the artist did that without reading every fine prints (middleman being friend and they talked about things over, so the artist thought it was just that customary thing) then, middleman had lawyer on the back and put ceiling on how much artist cold get no matter how well the book is sold.
could be more careful, yes but how people be so evil?
does every artist needs lawyer who can fix up contract and exchange?
answer is yes.
then how could anyone starting up with no fund could afford to hire a good lawyer?
so
love, it is good thing your D could have been a lawyer. She could read and pick out the term that is not coherent with what have been said, those tedious words, she would know/ care to figure out/ call home and ask your opinion (my kid would never ever do)
gawd
why can’t we just make beautiful things and make living and be happy?
art and court words in fine prints don’t go together!!!</p>
<p>Barney and whom it may concern
who knows where… maybe by the end of April.
I mean I need to know by then, our apartment lease would be up.
would my rent budget have to be poured into tuition for any college?
or
could we get to stay and he be working?
one good thing that came out of is,
NO PROFILE!! I did initial filing but now don’t have to worry about the waiver.
why Cooper as free college have to do Profile is a mystery… and why those $$$$$$ art schools don’t make us do?
wait, RISD MICA might have ask? I don’t know.
let’s just say, doing FAFSA could be torture enuff for art parents. why would they make us suffer if they are not gonna open their wallets anyways???</p>
<p>I would take an art student over a law student these days! so many law students, so few jobs! A friend at work has a kid with a chemical engineering degree at home, on the couch…the absolute worst thing right now is an MBA and big, big debt. My intern from last year just snagged a really great summer job at a hedge fund in NYC–he is thrilled since he thinks it is because of my recommendation–they usually take MBA students or grads…I didn’t have the heart to point out that he is a lot cheaper than the MBA students and with less desperation in his eyes at the end of the summer…yeah, great intern but one wonders how a reference from a government bureaucrat helped get a job at the hedge fund…I did wax lyrical about his skills on the Bloomberg machine and his unusual ability for a 20 year old to keep his mouth shut about sensitive topics…</p>