<p>nearest landfill for speedbump is where he belongs…</p>
<p>Anything goes, if aliens or zombies attack.</p>
<p>"In many of the other great Greek tragedies, the failure to observe funeral rites brings the wrath of the Gods. Respect for death - thanatos - is respect for life - thanos. "</p>
<p>That is in battle which was always considered honorable to the ancient Greeks and others. Killing innocent people including children not in battle is not the same thing as described here. It is an act of cowardice.</p>
<p>Yes, we can always find reasons to act dishonourably. We can always find some reason why we are excused.</p>
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<p>I think we have a vast disagreement on what a suicide bomber is defined as. If you can’t differentiate between a soldier attacking a military position in defense of his country and a person who ** targets ** civilians, to intentionally kill noncombatants, you need to study up on the laws of war and immunity of non-combatants.</p>
<p>Stressedoutt, so you’re saying that you’ve never attended a funeral where the clergyman had never met and had never known the deceased in life? Take my word for it. Such funerals happen everyday. Just because the the clergyman or clergywoman agrees to conduct a eulogy doesn’t mean he/she sympathized with any act or every event in the life of the deceased.</p>
<p>I think an imam’s refusal to officiate a burial reiterates fears that Islam is a rigid, inflexible and very punitive set of beliefs.</p>
<p>Is there no crematory in the US that will incinerate the terrorist and ship it back to its mamma? Or is that we, us Americans, cannot decide whether it is appropriate to give the terrorist a “proper” Muslim burial?? I’m confused.</p>
<p>Do we really want to ship him back so he can get the al-Megrahi hero’s welcome?</p>
<p>Just bury the guy.</p>
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Well, what definition was given to those citizens of Muslim countries who reportedly supported suicide bombing “some of the time?” I’m pointing out that you seem to like suicide bombing as long as you can define away the scenarios in which you don’t like it. Do you think kamikaze attacks by Japanese airmen in World War II were justified? By your definition, I’d have to say that you do.</p>
<p>Just to note that Monday’s Castle had the kind of TV rendering of technology that instills paranoia … and which is hilariously wrong.</p>
<p>The story involves a guy killed by a drone strike in Manhattan. Turns out the drone was “taken over” while in flight. (They never address how this drone was carrying a live missile over the US - for a training mission - or how the person who took over the drone knew that or how the person, etc., but never mind.) </p>
<p>In one scene, they run facial recognition software on all the people walking through the major NYC airports. They pick out their guy in seconds. And the computer brings up a neat picture, like on CSI. Remember how well facial recognition worked in Boston? It didn’t. People had to comb the photographs looking for clues.</p>
<p>In the drone scenes, they show footage that’s really helicopter shots of NYC with the kind of overlay they thought made it look like a drone - you know, copied from actual drone footage. Ever seen real drone footage? It looks like crap. And they of course had a neat video game targeting interface. In actual drone footage, like the kind Israel has put out, you see a grainy image of a car moving - even in broad daylight - and an explosion.</p>
<p>Yeah, yeah, Lergnom–you think they show us the REAL stuff?</p>
<p>“Q.H1 Some people think that suicide bombing and ot
her forms of violence against civilian targets are
justified in order to defend Islam from its enemies.
Other people believe that, no matter what the
reason, this kind of violence is never justified. Do
you personally feel that this kind of violence is
often justified to defend Islam, sometimes justif
ied, rarely justified, or never justified”</p>
<p>Among Muslims under 30yo the rates that find suicide bombings can be justified are:
US: 26%
UK: 35%
Fr: 42%
Ger: 22%
Sp: 29%</p>
<p><a href=“http://pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60[/url]”>http://pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60</a></p>
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Apples and oranges. Suicide bombings are defined as against civilian targets ( read the wording of the question in the poll)and not military ones. Our definition of a “suicide bomber” is very different and it seems that to you civilian and military targets are not different…</p>
<p>These aren’t productive arguments. What Western Muslims think versus what Muslims in the Arab world, etc. think can be very different. </p>
<p>As to the latter, I can link to numbers of speeches, fatwas, etc. calling for attacks on civilians. These originate from the Arab world, not from the West.</p>
<p>And let’s not forget who was responsible for the biggest bombing of a civilian target in history. Was it justified? I think it may have been, but we need to stop and think about it, in my opinion.</p>
<p>On one of the other topics, here’s a quote from the funeral home director handling the older brother’s body:
His name doesn’t suggest that he’s a Muslim, although of course, he could be. Whatever his religion, I admire him.</p>
<p>Janet Reno?</p>
<p>Nope. Harry Truman.</p>
<p>What would you like us to ponder? Because there are so few parallels that I think it is a mistaken analogy. </p>
<p>For instance, when did the hat brothers leaflet the 8 yo telling him not to attend the marathon?</p>
<p>If they wanted to end this circus, take an imam, a funeral director and find an unmarked grave in a Potter’s field somewhere and bury him in a clandestine manner. No one has to know and the problem is solved…</p>
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You can certainly argue about whether these things are parallel. But no leaflets warning of atomic bombs were dropped on Hiroshima (or Nagasaki). There were leaflets warning of conventional firebombings dropped on numerous Japanese cities, including Hiroshima. But there was no special warning for the atom bomb.</p>
<p>All I’m saying is that before we get too much on our high horse about what other people do or don’t support, just remember that most Americans supported, and probably still support, nuclear bombings of cities that killed over 100,000 people.</p>
<p>I also wonder how that poll would come out in the US if it asked about “defending America” or “defending Christianity.”</p>