Aid for out-of-state kids at public colleges?

<p>I'm just wondering if anyone has kids at a public college out of state who has received need-based or merit-base aid? I've been discouraging my son from applying to public colleges out of state because we'd need financial aid, and my assumption is that public colleges don't give good aid to kids from out of state, because that's where they make the most money.</p>

<p>Please remind your son that the goal of a public university is to provide and affordable option to the taxpayers in that state. There are a couple of schools, UVA, UNC-CH and Michigan that will provide need based aid to OOS, but the admissions pool is very competitive.</p>

<p>You are correct in the fact that most OOS do not have the $$ to fund non-residents with large amounts of merit/grant aid.</p>

<p>My daughter was offered merit aid from an out of state school.
There are also schools which participate in agreements with neighboring states to reduce tuition closer to the level of instate tuition.
FOr example
Western</a> Undergraduate Exchange (WUE) | Western Interstate Commission for Higher Education

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WUE states: Alaska, Arizona, California, Colorado, Hawaii, Idaho, Montana, Nevada, New Mexico, North Dakota, Oregon, South Dakota, Utah, Washington and Wyoming.<a href="But%20not%20all%20state%20schools%20participate">/quote</a></p>

<p>4</a> Ways to Cut the Cost of an Out-of State University - CBS News</p>

<p>Michigan's OOS need based aid program is very minimal, really reserved for the neediest ... not nearly as good as UNC or UVA ... which is good, because UM does not meet need for IN STATE unless they are among the poorest.</p>

<p>Yes my oldest got merit from an out of state public. Not a ton of money but enough to bring it close to our (expensive) in-state flagships in Michigan. It was my experience in looking at schools for the 2 oldest boys, that many publics have token "scholarships" for out of state students. Except for the rare count on one had full tuition type deals, generally the merit scholarships bring the cost down to some amount more than the instate costs...say $150 of instate costs or something close to that. And everyone we looked at had some token amount it felt like given to any out of state students...say $2000 of something close to that so if you got accepted you got this $2000 or whatever discount....</p>

<p>There are also a handful of schools that are generous to out of state kids with great stats...lots of threads on that, but some of the sountern schools fall into that category with Alabama being the most often quoted.</p>

<p>Adele...if your son has high stats (high GPA and high SAT/ACT), then there are some OOS publics that will give large merit scholarships - if his scores are well-within the top 25% for the school. However, since these schools aren't also going to give you great need-based aid, the scholarships have to be large so that there isn't much left to cover.</p>

<p>However, if you're talking about need-based aid, then only UNC and UVA promise to meet need to OOS students...but since those are very hard to get into OOS, the money essentially has a merit component. </p>

<p>Have you tried any Net price calculators? What is your likely EFC?</p>

<p>Does your child have a non-custodial parent? </p>

<p>What is your child's situation?</p>

<p>Typos galore in my post...I meant 150% of tuition not $150...sorry, shouldn't post at work.</p>

<p>UMichigan has merit aid for OOS students, but it's not as generous as it used to be.</p>

<p>Yes, UVa meets 100% of need for US students, but the only merit aid is a privately funded Jefferson Scholarship program.</p>

<p>U. Delaware provides significant need and merit aid for out of students.</p>

<p>U. Pittsburgh provides merit aid for the top out of state students. According to other people who have posted, Pitt's goal seems to be to bring the tuition down to in-state levels for those top students. I haven't heard much about need based aid from Pitt.</p>

<p>Someone else wrote that the College of New Jersey used to provide significant merit aid for out of state students, but they had to cut back because of state budget cuts.</p>

<p>There are also many less selective colleges that provide merit aid for out of state students, sometimes through their Honors College. Examples in PA. include Temple U. and Indiana U. of Pa., I believe.</p>

<p>UMinnesota also has significant merit for OOS students.</p>

<p>*U. Delaware provides significant need and merit aid for out of students.
*</p>

<p>UDel may give merit for high stats. However, I would not say that it gives significant need-based aid to OOS students. I've tried their NPC with a pretend EFC of 6000 ( so that Pell would not be included ) and it included $7k in student loans AND $27k in Plus loans. For a family with an EFC of $6k, that's not going to help much. The Parents' debt would be over $100k.</p>

<p>Lots of schools in the south provide really good merit aid that is very achievable.</p>

<p>For example, at the University of Alabama, a 3.5 GPA and 1330 M+CR gets you in-state tuition.</p>

<p>*For example, at the University of Alabama, a 3.5 GPA and 1330 M+CR gets you in-state tuition. *</p>

<p>Actually, the scholarship is better than that. :) With those stats you get the UA Scholar award which is 2/3 tuition scholarship. The remain third is about $7k. Instate tuition is $8600. And, the scholarship increases in value as tuition increases. :)</p>

<p>And, if you have a 1400 M+CR or 32 ACT, you get free tuition. (must apply by Dec 1)
And, the scholarship increases in value as tuition increases. :)</p>

<p>For those who qualify for the 2/3 tuition scholarship, if you major in Eng'g or Comp Sci, the the Col of Eng'g bumps your scholarship up to full tuition AND also gives you 2500 per year. :)</p>

<p>Yep . .. OSU ptrovided enough merit aid to offset most of the OOS charge.</p>

<p>This was a MA to OH student.</p>

<p>Look carefully at the scholarships page of each school he's considering. Some of my d's awards as the OOS public include their "Presidential" -- which is half-tuition for in or out of state fees. It was pretty much guaranteed based on her stats. Also, look at competitive awards -- her other scholarships, including the competitive one, added up to full ride (even the overload fees when she insisted on too many credit hours). It is so worth it to go to campus to compete if invited -- yes, there are only a few awards, but if you don't compete for them, well, that's a definite "no" for those dollars....</p>

<p>I think scholarships and costs are soooooo individualized, it's hard to give a blanket statement about X school being generous/stingy with aid. We had a spreadsheet of schools she'd applied to, the "retail" costs, the amounts of guaranteed merit aid for her situation, if offered, opportunities for competitive awards, etc. It was interesting to watch the prices change as more awards were received, things were revised, etc.</p>

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However, I would not say that it gives significant need-based aid to OOS students.

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I think they tie need to merit. My D got merit and need-based, even thought we don't really have need. I am aware of several other people in the same situation.</p>

<p>^^^</p>

<p>Could be. Some schools do give "preferential packaging" to students with better stats. And if you didn't really have "need," then it sounds like your child got merit or mostly merit.</p>

<p>That's why I think it helps when the NPCs ask for stats.</p>

<p>Miami University of Ohio offers merit aid to out-of-state students:</p>

<p>University</a> Merit Scholarships | Miami Scholarships | Scholarships | High School Students | Financial Aid | Admission | Miami University</p>

<p>I got $10k from UMass as an OOS student. I think that's their highest package but it was solely merit and not need based.</p>

<p>University of South Carolina offers some nice merit scholarships for out of state students with good/high stats. They bring the tuition down to the instate price.</p>