Given the quick time frame, it is unlikely that the university did much of anything other than respond to media questions with disapproving statements.
Barber is from Marlton, New Jersey. In part of her rant, it seems like she believed that going to Alabama would allow her to be more racist – “I’m in the South now”. But she found out that Alabama is no longer in the Jim Crow era.
I’m from the same part of NJ. I know the the town she is from and I know the high school, and as far as Catholic high schools go, it seems more diverse than others in the region.
I’m horrified that someone who is from where I am from can say things like that, but even more, I’m deeply disturbed that thoughts like that could even enter a kid’s mind, not the thought to say it and take a video of it, but to even have racist thoughts like that in the first place. I know it’s naive but I’m still incredulous that people could think that way.
I just keep thinking she’s probably had a better life than most other people in the world, living in a comfy, safe suburb, parents able to pay for a private school, maybe sacrificing to do so because they care about values like love-they-neighbor, then paying to send her to Alabama. Where did all the ugliness come from?
It doesn’t surprise me at all that she thought that people in Alabama would be okay with the things she said. I encountered a fair number of Northeastern racists who just assumed I agreed with them because I was from the South.
Deep seated racist views like this girl clearly has don’t just appear overnight - something in her upbringing needs to be assessed? her environment and role models? views of her family and friends? was low level racism allowed to slide in her early years and not corrected?
In any event she is learning a tough lesson as her college life is now ruined and it will impact her ability to get a job as well. Very stupid girl to ruin her future like this when she had a great college life ahead of her.
Her mom has a gofundme site she put up in early January because of financial problems/job loss/truck repo/husband in prison. If you google the mom’s name and gofundme it will pop up.
None of that excuses the racist rant or gins up any sympathy from me, but that and her social media support of one particular presidential candidate (the one who weighs 239 lbs) together do paint a fuller picture of Harley.
The post is disgusting, vile, and horrifying and I have a hard time believing that she could ever become a good person. I hope I’m wrong.
@jrcsmom I admittedly do not know how to distinguish between people from Asia as to their country of origin – I didn’t know that not knowing the details of that made me a racist. Do you know what country any white person is from based on how they look? I don’t know THAT either. Yes to me most Asians look similar - that is how they know they are Asian (or probably) – I don’t get how not acknowledging such is racist. Of course I didn’t hear the conversation so maybe I am missing something.
I don’t condone threats of violence or the like, but I’m not terribly upset that the sorority girls of Alpha Phi feel they should not display their “colors” or whatever for a few weeks because one of their sisters went off the rails like this.
@jrcsmom you do realize that your blanket categorization of rural America is pretty offensive as well. And I am from the northeast so I don’t have any specific dog in that hunt only to say that just like anyone else ‘rural America’ I imagine prefers not to be blanket judged.
@MACmiracle I too and from the area and my kids high school/.my neighborhood is also fairly diverse - it is not a common sentiment here to have such an additude as least from my observations but yeah theres a bad apple in any crowd.
Isn’t teaching civility and social propriety an obligation of parents? Whether or not the parents agree with their student’s view, they’ve failed in teaching her the necessary social skills to succeed in life. It’s the same as teaching kids to not pick their noses in public. It’s not illegal to pick your nose and flick dried up mucous onto others. A public university can’t kick you out for doing so, and many people on this forum will defend your constitution right to do it with impunity. However, it’s antisocial. It shows a disdain and disregard for the sensibilities and well-being of others. It will result in you being ostracized, shamed and unemployable.
You don’t have to play well with others to succeed in life, but it sure helps.
@toomanyteens - regarding the conversation that took place while I was at work, I’ll just say that I am not easily offended and it was one of the most offensive conversation I’d ever overheard and I was in shock it was taking place in a professional setting and I felt compelled to speak up, so perhaps there isn’t an appropriate way to relay exactly what transpired.
As for my comments on rural America - I live in a town with < 5000 people that doesn’t even have a McDonald’s and I live there by choice. I know many people, both friends and relatives, that have spent their entire lives in that environment. Of course not all people from rural America are the same -no two people in existence are the same, but I stand by my comments that be it at work, at home, or at family gatherings I’ve heard MANY comments that make these videos seem anything but horrifying - I suppose after you’ve heard small groups of people joke about burning crosses in lawns or heard someone advise not to go to the public pool because ‘black people swim in there’, using a single, albeit offensive word repeatedly just seems like someone wanting to get attention.
And of course it’s not just rural America - those same conversations are taking place in cities and in suburbs. I can only speak from my own experiences, but to think there’s a bad apple spoiling the bunch is just not accurate - there’s a bad orchard out there.
@jrcsmom Well I have two kids in college in ‘rural America’ and neither of them have said they have EVER heard that sort of talk or that it was even remotely acceptable. But as someone said the person that is the subject of this post in from NJ.
I am happy to say that I have been in the workplace for a long time and I have NEVER heard that kind of talk.
I’m also a native of NJ currently living in the south and I can assure you that all the blame doesn’t lie with her being exposed to “Bama Ways”. It may have enhanced what she already was , but the tone of her voice and the emphasis she put into saying those derogatory words didn’t sound like it was something new to her. Being a college student does not give you a pass to do something stupid and someday All is forgotten because you were once a young dumb-college student. She deserves every ounce of heat she gets minus physical harm and death threats. Finally don’t be surprised if she pens a tell All book with video and audio exposing the truth about the sorority that because she got caught made a business decision to sever ties with her.