Aside from the obvious, and what Ive previously mentioned, why do they not seek medical attention for the persons who have been shot?
Talk about adding insult to injury. Or injury to injury. When the man in Charleston was shot in the back and clearly down, they stop to cuff him and that’s it. No CPR? No checking someone’s pulse at least? I think it’s a bad culture that has permeated too many police units. In Eric Garner’s case there was even an EMT just standing there doing nothing. The federal investigation into that case hasn’t finished yet and hopefully it will bring some sort of protocol change.
That’s always the question I have, @partyof5 . and I can only think of two esplanations. Either the cop panics as in the case of Philando Castile (I won’t watch the video, I’m going off what I’ve read). Or the lack of care for the victim is just a manifestation of the larger culture of the department. Walter Scott’s killer, for example, casually planted evidence to back up his false story and – most damningly – the other cop present didn’t bat an eye. Other cops then backed up the shooter’s false report. So to me, that indicates a systemic problem in the department of which the failure to render aid is just a sympton.
Where are the people who always defend what the police do, no matter how egregious? They show up in every other thread about police shootings.
@LasMa It is awful, its as if, well I didn’t kill you with bullets, but I will just let you bleed to death. I am so angry.
@DonnaL Do you really want them to show up?
This is terrible, truly terrible. I don’t know what to say.
I don’t blame you a bit, @partyof5 .
I will be shocked if this one does not get prosecuted. There wasn’t even a scuffle in this one, the cops were a distance away and the guy is on the ground and clearly has his hands up. Let’s hope justice gets served this time.
Something has to give with the callers as well. It appears, some people are calling the cops when there is no need, with a false narrative. The cops then come, some inadequately trained, some just have problems with poc, and then the bullets fly.
It’s good that he survived; that way he can tell his side of the story.
There was a free seminar here on the virtue of subtlety, a short while back and since the instructor isn’t stepping up I’ll try to answer this one.
‘Egregious’ is key here, because that’s something both in the eye of the beholder and varies as facts trickle out. If you don’t want to have to eat… more often, conveniently forget… uninformed posts, you tend to wait till the worst of the dust has cleared. More often than not, the behavior isn’t really egregious. As decided by juries, not posters.
(That said, this one does seem egregious. Wish him the best in his lawsuit, though I doubt he’ll need any luck at all. Do hope he chooses wisely on his lawyer and ends up with most of the settlement.)
‘Subtlety’ comes into play, when you can keep at least two ideas in your head - that there are egregious cases of police misconduct and the fact that their frequency doesn’t prove a meme. The meme that BLM and the NAACP are pushing:
Given the connotation the word ‘lynching’ has, I don’t think anyone could look at that sentence and not take away the message that cops are racist murderers.
@albert69 It’s definitely good that he survived (and, sadly, surprising that he survived), but I doubt that his survivor account will have any more impact than all of the video evidence has had. See cata’s post.
@catahoula Lynching? Well, for that matter, relatively few blacks were actually lynched. But enough were that ALL blacks got the message.
As to the frequency of cop-on-black crime today, do you argue that, for the problem to warrant action, there must be video evidence of every one of them? I’m a white surburban woman, and I have to confess that I was largely unaware of this problem until videos started surfacing with such depressing frequency. There are enough of them, in a short time, to tell me that what we’re seeing is the tip of the iceberg, and that this is a crisis which must be addressed. Like lynching was.
And BTW, a cop actually killing a black man is relatively rare. What’s not rare is non-lethal abuse and harassment by LEOs. This is a routine part of black mens’ lives, which is not OK.
I heard on the radio that the partner of the police officer who shot the mental health worker (who was trying to help the autistic man with the truck) asked his partner “WHY did you shoot that guy?!” And his partner answered “I don’t know.”
I’m always wary of people who don’t know why they do things.
More info came out today about the shooting in North Miami. Apparently, the cop was aiming at the autistic man, thinking that he was trying to attack the black mental health worker. Fortunately, the cop missed and the bullet hit the guy in the leg.
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/crime/article91160077.html
Oh good Lord. So he didn’t hit what he shot at, and he doesn’t know why he shot in the first place?
That sounds like a CYA story to me.
It was obvious that the kid sitting there wasn’t typical. They weren’t listening to what the guy was shouting and not only that, if this is the truth then why did they treat the victim like a criminal and cuff him while leaving him to bleed in the road for 20 minutes?
Said it was egregious and wished him well. Didn’t imply he was at fault or suggest anything about the officer’s innocence. To the contrary, I conveyed the belief that he was likely to be awarded a large amount of money for his ordeal.
Would you explain what else there is to see in my post, LasMa?
It’s not what I need, LasMa… it’s what you need.
Which is a statistical argument for ‘cop-on-black’ crime. One that shows a definite disparity, adjusted, with ‘cop-on-white’, or ‘cop-on-brown’ crime.
What I don’t understand is why there couldn’t be use of mace, pepper spray, taser gun, etc. in some of these situations – that way, if you’ve made a mistake, at least there’s no permanent harm.
Might be better, might just be even more indiscriminately used since the weapons are supposedly not deadly. The link I posted at #199 shows indiscriminate taser use on an innocent man. Tasers have killed people. Cops don’t usually ask if someone has a heart condition before using them. And the police grade pepper spray is considered a chemical weapon and is far, far stronger than the ones that you and I can buy.