Am I in trouble? Is there ANY hope?

<p>Another option is Wilson College in Chambersburg, PA ([Wilson</a> College](<a href=“http://www.wilson.edu%5DWilson”>http://www.wilson.edu)). It’s a small women’s college with adult degree programs, and some of the majors can be completed with just evening classes. Students (including transfer students) with a cumulative GPA of 3.75 or higher automatically get a 1/2 tuition scholarship. With two stepchildren I’m guessing you’re not a single parent, but Wilson has a Women with Children program that provides on-campus residential housing year-round to single mothers and their children (20 months and older) so that the mother can pursue a bachelor’s degree full-time.</p>

<p>I don’t know what your major is, but you definitely have a talent for writing! Best of luck to you–with your strength and determination, I’m sure you’ll be very successful.</p>

<p>I think you might laugh if you took a tour of the eight Ivy League colleges. They are not interchangeable colleges. Harvard is in the middle of a major metropolis. Dartmouth is in a small New England town. You’d be happy in one place if you like funky bookstores and happy in the other if you love hiking and canoeing. </p>

<p>The term “Ivy League” came way back when the eight colleges were similar in size and they played football against each other. Today, the schools are vastly different places (Does Brown even have football any more?). </p>

<p>I am wondering if you might be happier if you expanded the thinking from “Ivy League” to “An education of high quality”. Sure, “Ivy League” has some established cachet – but if you wanted to work in Naval Architecture, then the established “top of the line” program is the Webb Institute. If you wanted to be a superb musician, you would want a credential from Juillard. If you wanted to be a superior engineer in explosives, then you’d head to tiny New Mexico Tech. </p>

<p>For now, your work may be in supporting the four kids while you piece together what sort of work makes your heart sing. There is a huge difference between parenting a preschooler and parenting a tween – you will have more time to think and study as the kids get older. You can use this time now to support them and learn about your abilities and then pick the institution that will get you the credential you ultimately want. </p>

<p>Please don’t narrow the scope (As in “If I don’t get Yale, then my life is worthless”). If there is a path forward at a local college or Community College, use that path to begin the process of growing more. (Yale does have PhD programs for later!). </p>

<p>Your kids won’t wait. You can’t put them on hold while you pursue your dreams. You have to inch forward on your path of discovery while helping them grow. That may or may not be “Ivy League.” What it will be is “worthwhile.” Hang in there.</p>

<p>@SWTCAT- thank you! It’s funny that you should mention that- when I was pulling into the parking lot at my CC earlier I was trying to picture myself as an outsider reading my application, just wondering about my chances and daydreaming, and the words “homeless to Harvard” just randomly popped into my head! Obviously I must have heard of that book somehow, somewhere along the way, but I never did actually check it out. When I thought of it earlier I wondered if that was something that existed or if I was just experiencing word association based on the post I had written earlier, and stringing random words together or something, lol. I will definitely check out that book!!
Thanks again!</p>

<p>My mother went back to college when I was 12, and my brothers were younger. We spent a couple of years eating a lot of TV dinners, but honestly I don’t feel that we missed out. She was around as much as any working mother is and probably more. In fact, I read a lot of my mother’s reading - she was studying to be a teacher and her child psychology texts were fascinating!</p>

<p>@mathmom, GeekMom63, collegecarla, QuantMech, MomofWildChild, 12rmh18, MmeZeeZee, CoolRunning, mamita, Magnetron, katliamom, Olymom, stevensmama, SmithieandProud, and cptofthehouse-
(okay, in hindsight maybe it was dorky to list everyone individually- I REALLY hope I didn’t miss anyone!! -but you all took the time to reply to me and I wanted to at least personally acknowledge each of you for that- I am truly grateful for the thoughts, wisdom, and resources passed on by each and every one of you)</p>

<p>Wow, I’m completely shocked by the number of replies I have received! Thank you all, so much. I really appreciate your kind words and encouragement. I have said for a long time now that I don’t want anyone to be proud of me, or congratulate me- I don’t deserve any kind of commendation for merely returning to normalcy. I went down a terrible path, and that was my own choice. But I cannot thank you enough for being accepting of me, in spite of my past, and passing on such generous well-wishings and support…actually, now that I think about it, that makes sense- I can tell this is a parent’s forum! :slight_smile: Parents seem to have a bottomless well of love to give…</p>

<p>I wish I had the time to really respond to each of you, but I think I can cover most of this in one post- please know, though, that I read each of your posts with care and will heed every bit of advice that you have offered! AND THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH!</p>

<p>Okay, here goes:</p>

<p>Yes, I have applied to a couple of schools outside of the “Ivy” realm- and really, I use the term “Ivy League” loosely. I know the term actually refers to a specific sports-community, but I DIDN’T know that until recently, lol, and most college hopefuls I’ve talked to over the years just use the term to describe any highly financially endowed, extremely selective private university (so it just kind of became a habit for me, too). However, Ivy or not, my chances at any of those schools are pretty slim, as are anyone’s. I only applied to schools that seemed to have everything I wanted in a college, but many of those were deliberately picked from the list that provides 100% of demonstrated financial need to accepted students- what I mean is that I researched all the schools on that list, fell in love with a handful of them, and applied to those. It’s a long shot, but because the schools offer cultural, educational, networking, research, AND full-ride scholarship opportunities, if I made it into ANY of those schools, well, I’d be set. And every single one of them has on-site daycare- I could obtain my incredible education with the knowledge that my son was being safely cared for just a few buildings away!! Cornell in particular happens to have AMAZING programs for students with kids- I’ve been on their electronic mailing list for about a year now, and they never cease to amaze me! SOOO many fabulous opportunities, and obviously my family would be made comfortable there, not treated like bizarre outcasts. I also applied to Columbia GS, the school specifically for non-traditionals- average student age is 29. :)</p>

<p>But still, with any of them, it is a long shot. </p>

<p>My CC does have an articulation agreement with a local state school, and I have applied there just to be safe, but honestly there isn’t much about that school that I find appealing. I hope that doesn’t make me sound snobby or something…that’s something I certainly can’t afford to be, lol!!! However, I have applied to other safe schools- One of the “safeties” I applied to is not too far away (would still require a move, but it is at least a connecting state…) and sends me something in the mail almost every day- no joke. I am consistently impressed by how many different mailings they have to send out, because every day, it’s a brand new postcard/letter/booklet/pamphlet/etc. etc. etc. How do they come up with something new to tell me about their school EVERY DAY?? Lol, I will admit, it’s nice- I get to smile everytime I check my mail- but I am a little sad about all the tree-massacring that they appear to condone… :wink: </p>

<p>Anyway, I do have at least one great option in that school, although I fear the scholarships may not be enough to make it a truly viable possibility. We’ll see… That’s also my question about ANY of the schools that don’t meet 100% of need (I looked into Yale’s Eli Whitney program- it sounds so amazing- but as I understand it, they don’t offer nearly the same financial opportunities as they do to regular Yale students). But you guys have left me an incredible amount of resources and links to check into, so I will be jumping on that immediately. If I recall correctly, several of them were actually in reference to financial opportunities, specifically, that my situation would qualify us for- those are things I will HAVE to check out asap!! (Thank you thank you thank you thank you!!!)</p>

<p>I won’t talk your ears off any more for now…so again, thank you so much. You have been so helpful, on so many levels.</p>

<p>Some of you asked about the logistics of my situation- hopefully this will shed some light:</p>

<p>As for right now- I’m a drain on society. It’s horrible and I feel guilty about it every day, really, but it just serves as more motivation for me to really pull myself and my family out of this hole. We collect food stamps, we have Medicaid, and we live in public housing. We are your tax dollars. :frowning: I’m sorry! I have so many goals in life- to nurture my children into becoming the best versions of their uniquely different selves as they can possibly be, to always be open-minded, supportive, loving, and foster an environment of honesty and sharing so that they will never be afraid to talk to me about anything (I think my biggest problem growing up was that I felt so much like my mom wouldn’t understand me, that she was so great and nice and perfect, yadda yadda, that I could never talk to her, be honest with her, when my life began to beckon skeletons- they HAD to be kept in the closet- so I want to make sure my kids not only realize that they CAN talk to me, but that they NEED to talk to me), I want to make a difference in the way American children are educated, make us all stronger and hungrier for knowledge, not just to make us more globally competitive (although that would be nice), but to create more problem-solvers and really make the world a better place- I know, cliche, but it’s a cliche for a reason… :slight_smile: …and there are many, many more goals, some specific, some general, but one that is very important to me is to get off social programs and finally begin to pay society back for taking care of my family in these rough years, and ideally, I’d like to donate to and work with charities and set up scholarships for talented kids who just need a helping hand to get to a better path.</p>

<p>Anyway, that was the beginning of my explanation of how we survive- social programs, basically. I have had approximately 9, 722, 946 menial jobs over the years, but ever since I started college I typically only work during the summers. I do a lot of volunteer work, student government, etc., so all of that PLUS maintaining a 4.0 GPA PLUS raising four kids doesn’t leave room for a job as well, which I kind of feel just makes me more of a loser (as in, maybe I should stop being such a selfish jerk, suck it up, and just work a min. wage job until my kids are grown and I have time to go to school while I work- but I’ve thought about it a lot and I think I will be on the road to paying MORE into society AND giving my kids a better life much faster by getting a good degree- plus, crazy thought, I might actually get a chance to be happy…whoa). So, as of now we survive off of the government’s handouts (your tax dollars) and student loans. I do have a partner (not technically my husband- we’ve both been married before and aren’t particularly eager to do it again- but if we ever do, there’s no way I’m having a wedding unless I have the time and money to enjoy the whole planning/flowers/dress/catering/shabang I missed out on last time!). He’s a student as well, but only part-time. He has a min. wage job, but loses over 75% of his paychecks to child support for only ONE of his two kids. I don’t even know how that’s legal, but I can tell you factually that it…well, it just plain sucks.</p>

<p>okay…does that cover everything? hmm…</p>

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<p>I work hard and I used to get very little sleep in order to keep up with everything, but that finally caught up with me and I discovered that my mind and body weren’t as young as they used to be, and I just can’t handle that lifestyle. So, yes it is difficult, but now I’ve learned to REALLY manage my time wisely, and I have become THE QUEEN OF MULTI-TASKING!! :slight_smile:
It’s not an easy life, but it’s worth it, and I do still manage to squeeze in a few hours for myself here and there. My family has dinner together almost every night and we have family game/movie nights on the weekends. There is a methodically designed division of labor in our home, which is how we keep our house clean while managing our busy lives- our children even have daily chores that earn them fake money (I imported an online dollar bill image into PowerPoint and put their pictures on the bills, so they have “Mikey dollars” and “Annyka dollars”, etc.), and they spend their money in the family “general store” which is stocked with prizes I buy for a quarter at the Sunday sale in a local thrift store. </p>

<p>While I believe the workload at my next school will be heavier than at my community college, and perhaps more so if I do get into one of those big-dog U’s, I have balanced all of this so far, so I think I can handle it. I am certain that a lot of this wouldn’t be possible (or at least would be A LOT more difficult) if I didn’t have a partner- I have endless amounts of respect for the single parents out there. There are times that I feel overwhelmed, exhausted, frustrated, sad- but I really think I can roll with the punches. I believe that no matter what school I transfer to, I will do really well, and hopefully achieve many of my goals. </p>

<p>Woohoo! That was my first quote! Yea!
(It’s the little things…)
;)</p>

<p>@mathmom </p>

<p>I hear ya. We make it a point to eat dinner together nearly every night, but I didn’t say they were always gourmet meals… :wink: Frozen pot pies make a regular appearance around here, and kids love pizza so that works out okay! haha
Thanks for the encouragement! I think we manage all of it pretty well, considering. Oh, and you mentioned your mom’s child psych texts- that’s particularly funny because my mom went back to school after my father left- and she became a psychologist! I read the DSM-IV about a hundred times back then, and proceeded to regularly engage in “people-watching”, usually resulting in what I felt was a pretty professional diagnosis of a myriad of disorders amongst various members of my community…lol</p>

<p>@sybbie719-
Thank you SO much! I can’t believe you took the time to compile such an extensive list for me…I am so grateful. I can’t express it enough. That was just amazing of you…I’m sorry, I usually have so much to say, lol, but I’m speechless…I don’t have the words to properly express how touching that is…just…Thank you. I will begin diving into this list right after tomorrow’s exam! I’m excited! </p>

<p>You guys are an incredible group of people!!</p>

<p>“While I believe the workload at my next school will be heavier than at my community college,” - Yes, definitely expect that. Good luck making it all work!</p>

<p>Don’t feel bad about being on government assistance, you’ve got enough to worry about. As far as I’m concerned government assistance is for people down on their luck but who are hard workers and determined to pull themselves up. Good luck.</p>

<p>I agree with Pea. Things happen to people and sometimes they need government help to help them get back on their feet. I think in this case in particular, it will be a very good investment of our tax dollars. :)</p>

<p>Good luck with your acceptances. Hopefully you have a choice that works out. </p>

<p>A very dear friend of mine was a student for years raising her 8 kids (yours, mine, ours situation) in the backdrop of a major university. The cultural offerings, the events, the university specials in that student “ghetto” made for an outstanding quality of life. She was well in her 40s before getting her master’s and finding the job that she wanted and some of her kids were going to college then. All are doing ever so well, and went on to higher education.</p>