<p>White Female from North Dakota
Taken the hardest course load possible. (Junior year-Pre-Calc, AP Phys., AP Chem., Accel English, AP Econ, Latin, Band)
Won many awards on the oboe. including All state band and Orchestra. Principal chair in Youth Symphony, 2nd place F-M Youth Symphony concerto contest.- very competitive.
Published science paper.
Founded Environmental Club.
North Dakota Governors school for science
Science Olympiad
GPA: 3.9-- Doesn’t weight
Class Rank-12%
SAT: 1270
SAT II’S- Chem 800 Literature:790
Because of my class rank do I have a chance at either Yale or UPenn (legacy to both)</p>
<p>its hard to get into those schools with that rank but the legacy should help. good luck!!!
by the way, what do you think about my son’s chances? please reply and provide any guidance.</p>
<p>I also work a job 10 hours a week, have 500+ volunteer hours, and take chinese lessons.</p>
<p>incredible volunteer work. i say you have a great shot.</p>
<p>I think your status as a North Dakota resident will help a lot. However, your SAT score might be a small detriment. Are you a senior?</p>
<p>I am a junior and my sat is a 2270 not 1270 opps! typo!</p>
<p>That’s a big difference! As sari noted, your North Dakota residence offers much-desired geographic diversity, and no one–not even Yale–could turn up their nose at a 2270 SAT. Good luck, Kindredkid, but make sure you have some good safeties on your list when application time rolls around!</p>
<p>Also, take a look at some near Ivy schools that would be happy to have a kid like you: Washington University in St. Louis, Rice, University of Chicago, Northwestern, Duke, Emory, Vanderbilt, University of Virginia, Georgetown, Tufts, Williams, Amherst, Middlebury, Swarthmore, Carleton, etc. All damn fine schools. And regardless of which schools you apply to, make sure they have the major or majors you are interested in, the size you feel comfortable with, the environment you like. In short, make sure the school fits. Yale is a great school, as is Penn, but I know kids who chose Yale because of the name and prestige and hate it.</p>
<p>Okay yeah, I think that Northwestern is definitely one of my top schools because of its excellent music program but I wasn’t sure if this was too out of reach because I am not a legacy.</p>
<p>and what about columbia?</p>
<p>You don’t have to ask here. You can get an idea yourself. Add your SAT Math and Verbal and compare that sum to the M+V SAT scores in the 25th to 75th percentile of any school you have an interest in. Generally, if your SAT M+V is at or somewhat above the 50th percentile (and your GPA and class rank are good), you have about an average chance of being accepted (though be warned, an “average” chance at schools like Harvard, Stanford, Yale, etc. is around 10%). If your SAT M+V is at or above the 75th percentile, you have a very good, though not guaranteed, chance of acceptance.</p>
<p>Here’s an example: At Northwestern, the M+V SAT 25th to 75th percentile is 1320 to 1500. The 50th percentile is 1410. If your SAT M+V is around 1410 or somewhat higher, you have about an average chance - around 30%. If your SAT M+V is 1500 or higher, you have a very good chance.</p>
<p>You can usually find this SAT info on a college’s website, usually under the heading Fast Facts or Class of 20xx Profile. Sometimes you have to dig. You can also get this info on the College Board website, and in the Best Colleges edition of U.S. News. This past year, it was the August 27th, 2007 issue. </p>
<p>All in all, it’s a rough rule of thumb, but it will give you an idea where you stand. And be aware that other factors can help, like being a legacy, or being from North Dakota, playing the oboe (you never know if the college orchestra needs an oboeist), etc.</p>
<p>bring up that SAT and you can try to get recruited on oboe. </p>
<p>seriously, try to get recruited for oboe, go to the schools and play for the band conductors</p>
<p>wow i think you have great chances regardless of the geographic advantage. whats your published science paper on? pm me!</p>
<p>it’s on the WPFO, a threatened orchid species in North Dakota. I identified the type of bees that were stealing nectar from this plant. </p>
<p>Thanks for all the encouragement!</p>
<p>I am a junior and my sat is a 2270 not 1270 opps! typo!</p>
<p>^^ Huge Difference ^^</p>
<p>I’d say you have about a 70% chance at either school.</p>
<p>You’re is a bit low but good chances at both schools.</p>
<p>You might want to edit your first post to correct the SAT score, because people might be dropping off before reading the rest of the thread.</p>
<p>Good chances. Yale will accept students with 2270 but it will not be the score that gets you into the college. ECs are the deciding factor. Although legacy doesn’t hurt, it cannot get you into the college if the admissions feel that you are unqualified in the first place. Example; A girl at my school had double legacy, her parents sat on the board of alumnus, 2380 SAT, and was rejected from Yale.</p>
<p>bump… please more input</p>
<p>You will be pushed over the top because of your ECs and independent work. SATs, rank, GPA etc. are all within the middle 50% for the top tier schools. Maximize your chances by applying to a few reaches.</p>