Americans going to UK Universities...

<p>Heres my problem, I got accpeted to NYU with some money, but if I go I will end up with a HUGE debt. I also got accepted to St Andrews University in Scotland and if I go there I pay home tuition of no more than $10k a year (room,tuition and fees). NYU is my dream school, but St A's is better for financial reasons. For those Americans going to UK schools how hard is it to transfer back if I dislike it after a year or what about graduate school??? please help</p>

<p>Not an American so I can't offer advice on that score, but there is a WORLD of difference between NYU and St. Andrew's - If NYU is really your dream school then I can't really see you being happy in such a comparatively isolated little town. If you're definitely going to be in the UK I would think about applying to places like Edinburgh, Glasgow, UCL etc. through clearing so you would at least get that city environment.</p>

<p>I know that they are very different but I do okay in all environments. Yes i'd like to live in the city, but i'm also fine with small towns. I just need to know if transfering between school systems is possible.</p>

<p>bump.......</p>

<p>I'm going to St. Andrews and my over-anxious mother wanted to know the same thing. But I remember reading in some stuff they sent me about how courses/credits are very transferrable (because of the scottish system). And graduate school shouldnt be a problem at all if you want to do that here after going to St. Andrews.</p>

<p>Afriend of mu D is going to St. Andrews and his mom told me when he is done in 4 years he will have a masters. It's not exactly the same as our masters but the next step would be a phd so close enough. It makes it a doubly good deal.</p>

<p>thank you for your help, also I read that there are a lot of Americans at St Andrews, are most of them full time students or do they just mean that its popular for year abroad programs?</p>

<p>Both, I'm lead to believe. Although a substantial number of international students are there for only a year, a large part of the "10% student body coming from North America" are full 4-year students.</p>

<p>What did you apply for? I'm going for a 4-year MA in English and Modern History.</p>

<p>I got into International Relations and Film, though I might change film to economics. So what made you chose St A's and what other schools were you considering?</p>

<p>I got into St. Andrews, Durham, and Edinburgh in the UK. I just wasn't feeling it for Durham. I thought the course at St. Andrews was just better, despite my affinity for a city environment like Edinburgh (which is my insurance). That and, of course, St. Andrews looks like an awesome place. </p>

<p>I still might end up staying stateside and going to UCI, but its not my intention. Here's to meeting at St. Andrews :)</p>

<p>Yah I think St Andrews will be a blast! Which Residence Hall do you want? I hope I get New Hall!</p>

<p>I was thinking about University Hall, but you want to do self-catering?
Cripes, you reminded me that I haven't sent in my accomodation form yet. I guess it isn't due particularly soon, but I'm liable to forget completely.</p>

<p>Hey, I got into St'Andrews as well but then I am choosing to go UVA or UMich because it's more fun than in england. In St'Andrews, lots of people like their experiences there, i heard. They've got a historic golf course too. If I were you, I would choose NYU coz it's more fun. But if u're looking for a new atmosphere, then St'Andrews might be the choice. I warn you it's in Scotland though...</p>

<p>Hey what is an insurance? I only applied to one school in the UK, is it bad if I dont have an insurance?</p>

<p>I don't really get tenniscraze's points. But anyways, an insurance is if you got into more than one school that's made you a conditional offer. So I got into St. Andrews conditional on two AP's at grade 4 or better, and Edinburgh with just one AP at 4 or better. I accepted St. Andrews and put Edinburgh as my insurance in case, for some reason, I did poorly on my AP's and only got one 4.</p>

<p>But yea, you only applied to 1 school, so wotever.</p>

<p>but theres no way St Andrews would revoke my admission, it was unconditional, so I dont need a safety right? it would suck if I gave up NYU and they then just said "hey you can't come", do I need an insurance?</p>

<p>haha. no, you dont need an insurance (you cant have one anyways).</p>

<p>Once you accept an unconditional offer from a school, that school will be your FIRM choice. Hence, your insurance choice and everything else doesn't matter.</p>

<p>ok, thanks</p>

<p>I'm from the UK (living in the US now) and I went to Edinburgh Uni. I just wanted to let you know that a Scottish MA is simply the equivalent of an ordinary BA/Bsc. </p>

<p>Scottish degrees are 4 years unlike English degrees which are 3 years. This is because in Scotland you can go to University at 17 and in England you have to be 18. The first year at a Scottish Univesity is regarded as the equivalent of English year 12 (last year of high school). English students can go directly to the second year of a Scottish University if they have high enough year 12 grades.</p>

<p>Of course, some people don't know this and will assume you have an MA!</p>

<p>You may or may not know that Oxbridge MAs aren't real MAs either. They're like a fund raising thing- you buy one about 6 months after graduation. If you do a real MA at Oxbridge its called an MPhil (same in Scotland).</p>

<p>Finally, MAs/MPhils in the UK are only 12 months and I think (correct me if I'm wrong) that in the US they usually take 2 years.</p>