<p>Are there NCAA rules that require an athlete to be notified by a certain time that he won’t be on the squad next year so that the athlete can make other arrangements? Because if Duke missed the deadline, that would explain why they are trying to boot him out of the program based on the “incidents” reported in the lawsuit.</p>
<p>Seriously, someone remembers that he threw his putter a few feet into his bag? I’d remember if he threw his putter 20 yards into his bag, but a few feet?</p>
<p>Quote: "Seems that Duke + Giulani was a heavenly marriage as they truly deserve each other. "</p>
<p>I have no idea what that means. I assume it may be a joke since it started with “LOL”… 
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<p>(although it is from a poster who constantly refers to Duke as the “Plantation” for some reason. Never figured that out either.) LOL :)</p>
<p>Why such hostility toward Duke? Any personal experiences there?</p>
<p>xiggi, would you please explain your antipathy for Duke? I don’t think I ever saw a post from you with anything positive to say aboutit. Is there something you know that we don’t? Is there a reason we should not side with Duke? I have no connection with the school, nor do I know personally anyone who goes or went there, and only know it by academic reputation. Perhaps there is something I am missing. You seem to have a vast amount of knowledge on the subject and I would really like to hear your input.</p>
<p>I guess what I don’t understand is why the coach didn’t simply say the kid wasn’t good enough… played 12th on a 13-member team that needed to be cut down to 6ish.</p>
<p>Why list some very minor-sounding infractions and take the discussion off-topic?</p>
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<p>Oh, I am pretty certain you know the origin of the term “the Plantation” used in reference to Duke. It’s borrowed from Rachel Toor’s book and her quotation has been posted many times on College Confidential. </p>
<p>I also think that we covered how I view Duke many times. Did we not declared a truce about this about on … 01-11-2006? </p>
<p>As far as Duke and Giulani deserving each other, that is comment that goes straight to the heart of development admission that went wrong. Nothing very complicated or far reaching about it.</p>
<p>As far as saying something nice about Duke, I think that more than a few great kids obtained a wonderful education in Durham, and made their parents deservedly very proud of their accomplishments.</p>
<p>There is an article in Newsday about this today. It said that young Giuliani received emails from 5 of his teammates saying that they didn’t want him on the team anymore. Could it be that he was not only one of the weaker players, but also a pain in the neck to be around?</p>
<p>Update, update: </p>
<p>“A federal magistrate judge with a taste for sports metaphors has found that Andrew Giuliani’s lawsuit against Duke University for letting a coach push him off the university’s golf team is a ‘swing and a miss.’”</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/nyregion/21giuliani.html?_r=1&em[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/21/nyregion/21giuliani.html?_r=1&em</a></p>
<p>(I know you’ve all been waiting on the edge of your seats for this.)</p>
<p>LOL, I’m impressed you were able to find the right thread for this important news!</p>
<p>Well, it was in the NYT today, so I just searched for the article on-line. Not too tough.</p>
<p>Oh – you mean, finding this thread? I just searched “Guiliani golf.” And here we are!!</p>
<p>But you were on the edge of your seat, right, MathMom??</p>
<p>I need to tell some of my students to apply to clerk for this judge…he sounds like a riot. :)</p>
<p>Sounds like a case of a misplaced and disproportional sense of entitlement by a spoiled brat kid. Says something sad about the kid, the parents, and the culture.</p>
<p>I think the episode speaks more poorly of the coach than the kid. This is the type of incident that parents worry about.</p>
<p>For those of you reading all this who are not from the NYC area: Andrew Giuliani grew up in the public eye and was truly a “spoiled brat kid,” in many people’s opinions. The whole family tended to leave a bad taste in the mouths of NYers, and I am not surprised at the entitlement exhibited by this young man as he grows up. Doesn’t really matter what the coach did; I tend to think that Andrew is at fault, no matter what.</p>
<p>I believe kids CAN grow up – and it DOES matter what the coach did. Even if didnt reach to the level of legal liability, it does speak poorly of the coach and the school.</p>
<p>I think everyone’s speculating because there’s a lack of concrete info here…lots of rumors about his behavior. The kid threw an apple at a teammate and gets kicked off? That’s what the Times indicated…??..Maybe he was a primadonna but then he says they treated him like something out of “Lord of the Flies” but doesn’t get specific. Hard to figure out.</p>
<p>I can’t imagine any circumstance where I would sue my private school for barring me from an extracurricular, except perhaps if the coach told me, “We decided we don’t want any Jews on this team.” If you don’t like what’s going on at your private school, transfer.</p>
<p>The student alleged he was promised certain things. It is unrealistic for a senior to transfer. Some coaches do not act with integrity. They are to be avoided. You’re dke we do need more details. I hope the student newspaper at Duke follows up o this.</p>
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<p>How wonderful that in Canada the justice system works perfectly in every case. Here in the US, some of our judges and juries are human, so mistakes are made.</p>
<p>If he was a senior, then just one year on the golf team was at stake. He’s going to sue over that? And we’re not talking about football or lacrosse, where you have to have teammates, coaches, opposing teams, etc. in order to participate and build your skills. There’s no PGA draft based on college performance. If you love golf, go to the course and play – exactly what are you missing out on? If it’s the camaraderie and spirit of being one of the guys, suing your way back onto the team will never get that back, even if he had had a legal leg to stand on. </p>
<p>It’s pretty ridiculous to expect the taxpayers to (expensively) fund a resolution of this kind of dispute in federal court. I mean, sheesh. There were times in school when a director told me I’d have a solo, and then gave my song to someone else. The appropriate response to that kind of drama is a hissy fit, not a federal case. Maybe athletes could learn a thing or two from us choir geeks.</p>
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<p>kate, it’s not a matter of the system working perfectly in every case. It’s a matter of people, and their lawyers, thinking long and hard about pursuing lawsuits that may be frivolous.</p>