Angry Reminders of a Child's Death

<p>The parents of two murdered children are upset that they often see the sister of the alleged killer at the surviving sibling’s new school. A deal had been arranged wherein the sister, a nanny, would delay her trip to pick up her own young charge at the end of the school day, until after the grieving parents leave with their surviving daughter. But the nanny has been picking up her employer’s daughter at dismissal time as usual, and her employer has balked at agreeing to any other accommodation. Is anyone right or is anyone in the wrong here?
<a href=“Mom haunted by accused killer nanny’s lookalike sister”>http://nypost.com/2014/09/30/mom-haunted-by-killer-nannys-sister/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>That’s an awful situation. </p>

<p>If a deal was brokered, which it was according to the story, and the sister didn’t comply, she’s a pretty insensitive…</p>

<p>It sure is. And one wonders what the heck is the matter with the family that employs the killer’s sister! </p>

<p>Was the sister in any way involved in the crime? Is she simply guilty of looking like her criminal sibling?!</p>

<p>No involvement. But if something was agreed to, it should be adhered to.</p>

<p>Sorry, but if it bothers <em>you</em>, <em>you</em> need to move. Or put your kid in private school.</p>

<p>The whole thing is disgusting and heart-breaking, but there is no right of the parents to request this.</p>

<p>The murderer’s sister did NOTHING to them. The article even points out that the sister is “lookalike” and I guess if she wasn’t, it wouldn’t bother them.</p>

<p>Why doesn’t the sister force them to pick their daughter up at a different time? Isn’t it heartbreaking to her to see them?</p>

<p>Somebody better put their big girl panties on and freaking move. I could NOT stay anywhere near where my children were murdered (yes, I know NYC is big).</p>

<p>The other alternative, and the parents appear to be made of money, is to buy out the nanny and have her move away and never come back to NYC.</p>

<p>Does this tell you that it is so hard to find a nanny that the other family who employs the sister ignores that her sister went ape crap and killed her charges? You can watch videos of John Wayne Gacy’s sister talking about how “the tragedy afffected her mom, namely the negative publicity” completely ignoring the deaths.</p>

<p>I was perfectly happy to have my kids in daycare centers. This kind of tragedy is why. Not that there aren’t daycare center tragedies, but one person who you can only vet so much puts ultimate power in their hands.</p>

<p>There seemed to be some indication that the sister knew the family, and introduced the killer sister to them. And in her emails she talks about the sister lying to get the killer sister the job.</p>

<p>I know that the Krims already relocated once, but it seems to me that their best option might be to do so again.</p>

<p>In reading the article, it sounds as if the sister recommended the defendant and may have misrepresented the defendant’s background to the family. </p>

<p>If there was an agreement in place, I agree that it should be adhered to. </p>

<p>I read ‘misrepresented the defendant’s background’ as ‘told a big lie’. The article should have said what that was. If it were me, I would try and go to the family that hired the liar and convince them to fire her. </p>

<p>There are agencies for hiring nannies that do background checks. Without that, you don’t know who you’re entrusting with your children.</p>

<p>It is a sad situation, but I don’t think there is much more than can be done. If an official enforceable agreement were put into place, that’s one thing. But things happen with kids in school and a sister can’t be made responsible for a crime. As much as I can see this pains the family, I don’t see what to do. THe sister has her rights as does the family who has hired her. What if it’s a look alike person someone with the same name,etc ,e tc? it happens. My brother would always get an ache when he saw anyone who looked like my father. </p>

<p>I would suggest this family to move elsewhere or put their child into a private school. But if the accused murderess has a number of sibling in NYC as it so appears, working in families, and gets a job with someone with a child in that school, what to do? </p>

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?? We’re not talking about someone not liking their latte in Starbucks. This is about parents who are desperately trying to move on with their lives and asking for something that was agreed upon - in court. </p>

<p>Wow “big girl panties?” I can’t think of anything more emblematic of wearing big girl panties than continuing to live after having two of your children murdered. Could you possibly be any more judgmental? And New York City is not big at all. In fact, when you are in a position to choose your schools and have professional childcare, it’s smalltown USA all the way. Also, many people who aren’t “made of money” have caregivers. And daycare centers can be just as dangerous.</p>

<p>Why should the Krims have to relocate again? Why would it be so hard for other people to be compassionate? Shameful, really.</p>

<p>Off topic, but The Post looks so much like The Enquirer at this point! I know it’s been awhile, but it wasn’t always that way. </p>

<p>The look-alike part makes it painful but relatives of murderers have to live with the crimes too and shouldn’t be blame for them. The implication given is the look-alike sister is doing this on purpose, that she’s trying to drive the mother crazy, but there’s no evidence that she’s doing anything other than trying to make a living. Life is difficult. You’d hope the nanny/sister would keep her distance - and I didn’t read anything about her approaching the family - but the mother can’t expect the world to accommodate to her grief. </p>

<p>Maybe she can’t expect the world to accommodate her grief, but certainly the sister of the murderer, whom she actually knew, should have the decency to stay away. And, really, what difference is 15 minutes in picking up a kid? It’s not like she was asked to sacrifice her own firstborn. The fact that she chose not to accommodate 15 minutes says pretty much all that needs to be known about the sister.</p>

<p>I’m amazed at the family that continues to employ a babysitter that referred her sister to another family as a nanny and said sister allegedly stabs those kids over and over.
If you don’t remember the case, here’s a story from last year on it</p>

<p><a href=“'Killer nanny' maintains denial after being confronted with photos of slaughtered children”>Crime News - New York Daily News;

<p>The nanny says she doesn’t remember and doesn’t know who did it. Knowing that this might be an insanity case, knowing that mental issues can often be traced to nature or nurture, would you risk your kids to be cared for by her sibling, already a proven provider of a bad reference?</p>

<p>Perhaps the real answer is for said family to file a HUGE civil suit against the sister, if she lied to get the killer a job with the family. And settle with her to get the fluff out of NYC or be subject to a huge payment.</p>

<p>How can you expect someone who lied to get her sister, later a killer, a job with you to adhere to an agreement about “please don’t be anywhere we can see you”? It boggles the mind.</p>

<p>And yes, were agencies involved or not? Even with agencies, with tens of pages of documents and background checks, it is very hard to get a good nanny.</p>

<p>In the article, there is some effort to cast some blame onto the sister, but of course that’s only one side of the story, and the timeline, in particular, isn’t spelled out. I don’t see how you can really blame the other family, who may have employed this nanny for many years.</p>

<p>Lergnom’s comments are very sobering. I agree that it’s wrong to try to force restrictions upon the sister, if the sister in no way has attempted to impose herself on the Krims. Apparently the “meetings” at dismissal time is a nearly unimaginable coincidence because this is the Krim’s new neighborhood and new school. But like other’s have said, NYC can be a small place, especially if you’re a parent searching for a suitable public school for your child.</p>

<p>As for the sister’s new employers, well, if I would have agreed to interview the nanny candidate, I would have made sure to ask a laundry list of questions. But I don’t imagine the matter of relatives whom are criminals would have come up in the conversation. Maybe they fear losing a hard to find and thus far satisfactory caregiver. Maybe they are afraid of a possible employee lawsuit, or maybe the new family just plain likes the nanny personally. This is a tough and awful set of circumstances.</p>