Ann Coulter, '84, mocks Keith Olbermann,'79, for graduating from CALS

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<p>I like that idea.They should also change her final transcript to indicate that she graduated from the Communication program :D</p>

<p>there was way too much in the Daily Sun about this.
it’s worth a passing mention, of course, because Cornell is getting talked about on TV (by Olbermann) but there was no need to interview people about it. someone said it diminished his or her education or something, which is rather strange, since it’s not like Coulter is a brain-snatcher or something.</p>

<p>Senator John McCain’s daughter, Meghan McCain — who is a moderate republican — wrote an interesting article published in today’s The Daily Beast, in which she strongly condemned Ann Coulter’s “hate and negativity” and “scare tactics,” amongst other Coulterian cold-hearted skulduggery.</p>

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<p>[Meghan</a> McCain Rebukes Coulter](<a href=“http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2009-03-09/my-beef-with-ann-coulter/full/]Meghan”>The Daily Beast: The Latest in Politics, Media & Entertainment News)</p>

<p>It would have been nice to have seen the record on Cornell and CALS set straight in her article, but Meghan is not too up on Cornell (being a Columbia alumna). Still, at least she is one republican willing to call Coulter out on her extreme, and too often fallacious, views.</p>

<p>"someone said it diminished his or her education or something, which is rather strange, since it’s not like Coulter is a brain-snatcher or something. "</p>

<p>No it is not strange; Coulter’s comments could well, unfortunately, raise inappropriate doubts among some people in the public at large as to the level of academic accomplishment of CALS graduates. Some in CALS may now even be called upon to defend even the fact that they attended an Ivy League school.</p>

<p>That a graduate of the university would deliberately make such reckless statements without regard to either factual accuracy or possible negative impact on so many fellow alumni, not just this one guy,really says a lot about this individual.</p>

<p>Fortunately most people either don’t care, didn’t read it, or are not disposed to give anything she says much credence anyway. So probably mimimal actual damage will be done. But still, the attempt to publicly demean, without regard to collateral consequences to others, cannot possibly be welcome by anyone associated with any college of the university.</p>

<p>^ … could not agree with you more on this issue Moneydad. There were postings on other boards which showed that certain elements in the extreme right wing, who follow Coulter, actually believed the fallacious comments she made about Cornell. Yes, this is a tiny minority of the public, since even most far-right republicans would know Ann’s comments to be false. Nevertheless, it is in the interest of well meaning Cornellians to vigorously set the record straight, lest Coulter’s self-serving nonsense spread to any appreciable degree.</p>

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<p>Agreed, and I would further add that Ann’s comments were not merely an attempt to “publicly demean,” but even worse to publicly demean through spurious rhetoric, intermixed with vile ad hominem attack. She falsely attributed an esteemed area of her own alma mater in order to unethically slander a fellow Cornellian. It really was beyond the pale.</p>

<p>I would much rather walk away with a Cornell degree having saved thousands of dollars…</p>

<p>^ The point is that whether you take a diploma saving thousands as an in-state student for one of the “contract” colleges, or whether you pay “full retail” as an out-of-stater (or for the fully endowed units), either way it is still a fully bona fide Cornell University degree – something to take equal pride in both ways.</p>

<p>I let this go another time, but for the record…</p>

<p>it’s M-O-N-Y dad</p>

<p>NOT
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<p>Good. Monydad it is, sorry I added that “e” to it. Monydad (the proper spelling) is better. :)</p>

<p>I still think it’s strange to think it matters. you still know all the things you learned in your classes, and you have all the same abilities. anyone who matters, like a prospective employer or graduate school, probably already has first-hand experience with students from CALS and wouldn’t be influenced by Ms. Coulter’s statements. the opinion of the “public at large” doesn’t make any difference. in my experience, a lot of people don’t even know what Cornell is!</p>

<p>Whether we like it or not, prestige does matter in employment. In addition, a good reputation can make wonders for a college- a bad reputation can also bring it down (unfairly, but that’s not the point). Prospective students do not need to have the idea that they aren’t applying to the “real” Cornell.</p>

<p>Whenever on these boards people ask “what’s the benefit of an Ivy League degree”
I relay the one thing that I really think it’s brought me over the years:</p>

<p>People who don’t really know me become predisposed by it to believe that I’m probably relatively smart. I’ve perceived this in several settings: employment, academic, and social.</p>

<p>Given that this is what I perceive to be the major benefit, it would be a shame to see this benefit jeopardized for CALS grads.</p>

<p>I have 2 job interviews coming up, and both companies tend to higher from top schools. I would hate to see something like this keep me from getting the job. ugh i hate her</p>

<p>A pair of the most important aspects of any university are the quality of its academics, and its reputation, and the latter may well be the more important of the two. Reputation has more to do with public perception, than with substantive attributes of a school. This is why it is important that false statements about schools, by people with some degree of a media platform, be consistently rebuffed. Negative statements made about a school by blowhards who are obvious flakes are not the issue here, because Coulter can often give the illusion of having more intellectual integrity than her mixed-bag of verbal output warrants.</p>

<p>As far as Cornell not necessarily being broadly known in the public eye, this has not been my experience. Think about it – it is a relatively large school that has been around for well over a 150 years. Consequently there are quite a few people extent in the world that have had some form of experience with the school — usually positive. Plus, there have been a tremendous amount of academic articles published out of Cornell, and there are plenty of high-profile employers who consistently recruit there.</p>

<p>So, it’s been my experience that most more-or-less educated people know of the school – usually with some sort of realization that it is a fine, unique and venerable institution. And it is clearly in the interest of Cornellians to do what they can to keep it that way. What a shame that Coulter is too much of a self-serving fruitcake to realize this .</p>

<p>She’s only relevant when she’s defending some statement calculated to offend or garner national attention. Otherwise, we’d never think of her.</p>

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<p>Has anyone else noticed the Ann Coulter ads on this site now? I was particulary stricken by the angry emu-esque picture of Ann that accompanied.</p>

<p>yea its ridiculous! 2 huge ads alll the time! I can’t wait until they go away.</p>

<p>You guys think she’s worse than Olbermann?? Maybe equal.</p>

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<p>Considering one lies and the other doesn’t? Yes.</p>

<p>People try to put Olbermann in the same category and pretend they’re just political mirrors of one another.</p>

<p>Coulter is a shock jock who calculates lies and misinformation mixed with fact on a level Olbermann couldn’t imagine. </p>

<p>That’s not me being partisan - I know blowhard liberals I can’t trust (never did trust John Edwards), but I’d put Olbermann more in the category of Bill O’Reilly. </p>

<p>Both can lose their anger over childlish things but also tend to stick to the facts, call their own party out when needed, and offer interesting insights that aren’t just towing the party line.</p>

<p>Rachel Maddow looks like Olbermann’s sister. The resemblance is uncanny.</p>