Another blow to Cornell?

[ixjunitxi]

<p>I hope this is a typo… however business week has Cornell listed as a public university… is it really considered public… i know the state supports CALS inparticular but since when is cornell a public university??</p>

<p><a href=“http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/07rankings/index.asp[/url]”>http://bwnt.businessweek.com/bschools/undergraduate/07rankings/index.asp&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[nameless1]

<p>This may not be relevant, but since when was being deemed “public” a bad thing?</p>

[CUgrad]

<p>if you look at the cost associated with attendance, they’re referring to the fact that the program is in agriculture and life sciences–a state supported college at Cornell.</p>

<p>Cheers,
CUgrad</p>

[live]

<p>Yeah CALS is considered public. But like nameless asked, why is that a bad thing? 4/10 on that list are public.</p>

[Figgy]

<p>Simply means they get a load of cash from the state. It was originally made to produce farmers for NY State. Now-a-days Cornell still runs every one of their colleges privately but still recieve funding. Seems like a good deal to me…</p>

[TehRahk]

<p>It’s still a public school, because of state funding. Yeah I would bet that the school is ran as a private with all the rest of the cornell schools.</p>

[gomestar]

<p>technically Cornell isn’t public. none of it. you can’t privately run a public institution - all of Cornell are privately run by the university.</p>

<p>however, the school does recieve substantial funding from the state. most schools do, but Cornell recieves millions more. This is the school’s affiliation with the state, it doesn’t stem much beyond money. </p>

<p>I’ll gladly take dozens of millions of dollars a year over public confusion in business week.</p>

[Cavs019]

<p>What do you mean by “another”?</p>

[richs73cas]

<p>Cornell University is the Land Grant College of the State of New York
<a href=“http://www.cornell.edu/landgrant/colleges.cfm[/url]”>http://www.cornell.edu/landgrant/colleges.cfm&lt;/a&gt;
Ezra Cornell and Andrew Dixon White were also NY State Legislators and got the New York State Legislature to support Cornell University right from the beginning.

In 1863, Ezra Cornell and Andrew D. White were elected to the New York State Senate. Both men took an interest in the land grant issue, working at first on plans involving existing colleges. Then, in January 1865, Cornell mentioned to White that his personal fortune exceeded his family’s needs, and he wanted to do something beneficial for the state. White shared his vision of an institution where scientific and technical education would be married with studies in history and literature. A month later, White introduced a bill “to establish the Cornell University, and to appropriate to it the income of the sale of public lands granted to this State.” With White as its president, Cornell University opened its doors to its first students in 1867.

This is something to be proud of, not to be denied. :)</p>

<p>The State University of New York
Link to list Campuses <a href=“http://www.suny.edu/Student/campuses_complete_list.cfm[/url]”>http://www.suny.edu/Student/campuses_complete_list.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Link to interactive Map
<a href=“http://www.suny.edu/Student/campuses_map.cfm[/url]”>http://www.suny.edu/Student/campuses_map.cfm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>ILR School

A Brief History of the ILR School</p>

<p>ILR’s first home was a group of quonset huts, 1946The idea seemed radical at the time: Establish a college where faculty and students could grapple with issues roiling the workplace, including the adversarial relationship between labor and management. This daring vision, coming on the heels of the Great Depression and then World War II, led to the founding of the ILR School by the New York State legislature in 1945. The school was charged with a mission “to improve industrial and labor conditions in the State through the provision of instruction, the conduct of research, and the dissemination of information in all aspects of industrial, labor, and public relations, affecting employers and employees.”</p>

<p>Given a home at Cornell University, ILR embodied both the intellectual rigor of the Ivy League and the democratic spirit of state universities. It created a multidisciplinary social sciences faculty that valued academic achievement and practical expertise. On-campus offerings promised students a liberal education with a professional orientation while off-campus Extension programs brought insights about the workplace to the wider community.

<a href=“http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/about/[/url]”>http://www.ilr.cornell.edu/about/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[TehRahk]

<p>Q: Is Cornell affiliated with SUNY?
A: Cornell is a private institution, receiving most of its funding through tuition, research grants, and alumni contributions. Three of its seven undergraduate colleges and the graduate-level College of Veterinary Medicine are called contract or statutory colleges. These divisions receive partial funding from the state of New York to support their research and service mission in niche fields. Residents of New York enrolled in the contract colleges pay reduced tuition. Furthermore, the governor of the state serves as an ex-officio member of the board of trustees. Despite some similarities, Cornell’s contract colleges are not public or state schools – they are private institutions that Cornell operates by contract with the state government.</p>

<p>“Every college defines its own academic programs, manages its own admissions, and confers its own degrees. The degrees are all from Cornell University. New York State and SUNY have no say in any of the workings of the Cornell contract colleges. The only difference between a contract and an endowed college at Cornell is where some money comes from. A state college, on the other hand, receives nearly all its money from the government and is operated by the government.”</p>

<p>I guess I should have read the sticky. CALS is a private school and AEM should be listed as a private school. Business Week is incorrect. CALS and the rest of the contract colleges fit almost none of the criteria to be a public school.</p>

[iAppler]

<p>Who cares about whether Cornell is public or private. It’s a great school. Period.</p>

[StPlayrXtreme]

<p>Definitely not “another blow”. </p>

<p>Well, the article is wrong. Cornell is considered a private university…just ask my bursur. </p>

<p>The only thing the contract schools mean is that NYS gives a lot of money to the university and in state students get a tuition break at the contract colleges and NYS picks up the tab. Doesn’t sound like a bad deal…so yeah, the article was wrong, but I wouldn’t consider it a blow to the university.</p>

[kyledavid80]

<p>Yeah, those horrible public schools blighting the forefront of American education.</p>

[richs73cas]

<p>Link to Member list
<a href=“http://www.nasulgc.org/About_Nasulgc/members_land_grant.htm[/url]”>http://www.nasulgc.org/About_Nasulgc/members_land_grant.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[Figgy]

<p>I didn’t know MIT was one as well</p>

[gomestar]

<p>I believe every ivy applied for land grant status</p>

[TehRahk]

<p>I’m curious. Do the contract college have quotas for New York residents or are the high percentage of New York residents in the contract colleges coincidence?</p>

[gomestar]

<p>there’s no quotas, I believe this is illegal. </p>

<p>the high % of NYS residents compared to other states is due to the applicant pool where NYS students love the reduced tuition and apply there by the boat load.</p>

[TehRahk]

<p>So everyone has an equal chance of entering the contract colleges freshman acceptance year?</p>

[gomestar]

<p>yes, though i’d argue that being out of state is a slight advantage now as cornell is trying to increase some diversity in the contract colleges</p>