<p>Is it my imagination or is there more murder-suicide where not only the spouse is killed but the children are murdered too. I just cant understand how someone could kill their own children.<br>
[Family</a> of 4 found dead in suburban NYC home - Yahoo! News](<a href=“http://news.yahoo.com/family-4-found-dead-suburban-nyc-home-131919769.html]Family”>http://news.yahoo.com/family-4-found-dead-suburban-nyc-home-131919769.html)
Truly sad.</p>
<p>OMG, that is so sad. Two kids! How can a parent do this?! </p>
<p>(At first I thought you meant this one, which also happened today:</p>
<p>[Elderly</a> couple dead in West Seattle murder-suicide | Seattle Times Newspaper](<a href=“http://today.seattletimes.com/2011/10/officers-set-up-outside-west-seattle-home-for-possible-homicide/]Elderly”>http://today.seattletimes.com/2011/10/officers-set-up-outside-west-seattle-home-for-possible-homicide/))</p>
<p>Oh my goodness, I just read another article about this terrible tragedy. It boggles the mind how a man could possibly do this to his family. Just appalling to me.</p>
<p>Last week this one was in our news.
[Gunman</a> in attempted murder/suicide identified - Spokesman.com - Oct. 11, 2011](<a href=“http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/oct/11/gunman-attempted-murder/]Gunman”>Gunman in attempted murder/suicide identified | The Spokesman-Review)</p>
<p>Horrifying. A local paper quotes his friends as saying his wife belittled him. Who knows if that happened or if they’re trying to salvage his memory so he is not portrayed as a monster, but that doesn’t give him the right to kill his wife and children. My heart goes out to her parents – they lost a daughter and 2 grandchildren.</p>
<p>Article I read said they were going thru a divorce,and that the marriage was in trouble from the start…Still, his actions are unexcusable</p>
<p>Had one here this week, too, but no kids involved.</p>
<p>These stories are just devastating. Here’s a sweeter story from my corner of the world… Hope it will help dispel some of the sadness of these other tragedies: </p>
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<p>[Couple</a> Married 72 Years Dies Holding Hands - Des Moines News Story - KCCI Des Moines](<a href=“http://www.kcci.com/news/29528191/detail.html]Couple”>Des Moines IA News and Weather - Iowa News - KCCI 8 News)</p>
<p>I will never understand those who commit suicide who choose to kill their spouses and children along with themselves. I wish they only took themselves out and not others. And it is incredibly difficult to fathom killing one’s own children (who this father is said to have loved). </p>
<p>In any case, I find it very distasteful that the father’s male friends are commenting about the poor wife and repeating things the husband had said about her. It is very one sided to begin with and it has no place at this time. Nobody should be feeling sorry for the father at this time. No matter what he thought of his wife, she did not deserve this. I’d love to hear what HER friends had to say! And even if the husband said his wife belittled him, there are two sides to every story and it doesn’t make it factual. I think his so called friends should have commented more to the effect that: “this is very unlike our friend…he seemed to be going through a tough time with his divorce. We feel terrible for this tragic outcome.” Nothing more.</p>
<p>caboodle, I saw that story earlier today about the elderly couple too and it is an uplifting story about long term relationships!</p>
<p>Omg, my sister in law lives in that town (in post #1). Her kids go to that school, and she has worked as a test-prep tutor (it said the wife had been a partner in a test-prep company)… I’m sure she knows this family.</p>
<p>Almost two years after this one, their daughter was named homecoming queen:</p>
<p>[Murder-Suicide</a> at Wal-Mart](<a href=“FOX 4 News Dallas-Fort Worth”>FOX 4 News Dallas-Fort Worth)</p>
<p>I taught Sunday School with this one:</p>
<p>[Texas</a> News](<a href=“http://www.texnews.com/texas97/suicide080197.html]Texas”>http://www.texnews.com/texas97/suicide080197.html)</p>
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Sooz, I havent read anything negative about Amy. Are they saying something different in your local news? I dont understand, what is being said to somehow place any of the blame on her?</p>
<p>Seeing the photo of the 2 children made me cry.</p>
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<p>Yes – I mentioned it in my post – I won’t dignify it with the link.</p>
<p>I asked S’14 if he’d heard about it. He said yes. I want to talk to him more – he’s a future husband and father. Was it money pressures? Was it because of the divorce? Was this a man who bottled his feelings inside? </p>
<p>I don’t believe the “he just snapped” theory to excuse all heinous behavior. That poor woman. Those poor children. He was well educated. He had options. Too bad he didn’t seek them.</p>
<p>TutuTaxi, I read articles online about this story (not local news). The articles quote friends of the father who mention what the husband related to them about his take on his wife’s behaviors (including that of his in-laws in fact). I find those comments distasteful in this situation. There is no saying that they are even valid in the first place and it comes across like this guy’s wife was not a good person as if she is cause for blame in this situation!</p>
<p>PS, I don’t know these people but just on the surface, the person who commits the murder of the spouse and his children and kills their own self seems to be the sick person and is the one to blame, at least for this tragic act which is beyond any other behavior.</p>
<p>*And it is incredibly difficult to fathom killing one’s own children (who this father is said to have loved).
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<p>*I find it very distasteful that the father’s male friends are commenting about the poor wife and repeating things the husband had said about her. It is very one sided to begin with and it has no place at this time. Nobody should be feeling sorry for the father at this time. *</p>
<p>And, if the H’s friends are trying to “blame” the wife by saying that she belittled him, that dog won’t hunt. A “good man” never kills anyone, much less his children, just because someone insulted him.</p>
<p>Sounds like if he was belittled, he wasn’t he wasn’t very “big” to begin with.</p>
<p>Mentally ill. Not recognized by colleagues. </p>
<p>Reminds me of John List, who did not commit suicide but did kill his family and then began a new life until caught by a tv show.</p>
<p>[John</a> E. List, 82, Killer of 5 Family Members, Dies - New York Times](<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/nyregion/25list1.html]John”>John E. List, 82, Killer of 5 Family Members, Dies - The New York Times)</p>
<p>Killing anyone is bad, but killing children is particularly disturbing. I remember the investigators in the sniper shootings around DC saying that shooting kids probably meant that another kid was involved (and they were right).</p>
<p>My d’s friend’s parents knew the family well. My d met them at various Bat Mitzvahs, Sweet 16s. My d (age 16) is very upset, naturally. They all seemed pretty ordinary to her. Who can tell what really goes on in people’s lives? The funeral for the wife/kids was today in Philly. Why can’t unhappy couples just get divorced as quickly and fairly as possible without all the ugly crap (ie involving the kids)? Just. get. divorced.</p>
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I had read this story and I thought it was lovely, too; until I read some of the comments below the story. It seems that the husband was going to get his license taken away and left with his wife to take a ride before they did so. He ran a stop sign or light (not sure which) and caused the accident that not only took their lives, but also seriously injured a passenger in the other car. She had a broken neck and severe internal injuries. Fortunately, she survived the crash. Not much was even mentioned about the innocent victims in this story. After reading all that, it didn’t seem like such a sweet story after all. :(</p>