And today we hear of this story. Not sure why it takes such excessive force and so many cops to arrest a 65 year old grandmother. Nor was cursing at her necessary. Again, I can’t see this happening to a white woman who was 65.
https://abcnews.go.com/US/police-drag-65-year-woman-car-traffic-stop/story?id=55090606
Why do they require you to sign the ticket? If you MUST sign, then it means nothing. It is a stupid law that leads to these issues. And I’m not sure I’d ever think it’s ok to scream profanity at a grandma.
Just saw the video of the 65 year old woman. She was pulled over for swerving, and refused to sign the ticket. If she had signed the ticket she could have driven home and either paid or contested the ticket. Since she wouldn’t sign, she was arrested for disorderly conduct. She did not get out of the car willingly. The arrest got a bit ugly and one of the officers yelled some rude language at her. I’m going to assume that if she had signed the ticket that the 3rd-6th officers would not have shown up.
We just had a thread on profanity, so I assume everyone who says the f-bomb is no big deal has no issue with the officer using it during an arrest. And what’s the deal with not signing a ticket? Why do you not sign? What do you think is going to happen?
“We just had a thread on profanity, so I assume everyone who says the f-bomb is no big deal has no issue with the officer using it during an arrest.”
Even those of us who stated we swear agreed there is a time and a place. A cop, who should be de-escalating the situation, not escalating, was of course wrong to do so in this instance. Are you really trying to justify it? Sure, the woman was being difficult but she posed no threat to the police. There are tactics to use other than brute and excessive force. C’mon now, this is training the police learn as well.
I f you call the cops on every student sleeping in a common area. campus cops need to set sub-stations in every architecture studio in the country. Those kids never sleep any where except under their boards.
Re: #163 and http://www.newsweek.com/lake-merritt-bbq-barbecue-video-oakland-racist-charcoal-east-bay-black-family-919355
Wonder how many police officers’ eyes rolled…
Haven’t we already been over this? Yale’s a private institution and can set their own policies on school property.
Oh, give me a frigging break. EVERYONE on that thread made clear that aiming the language at someone is different from using it in exasperation in general. NO ONE would have used it that way. And I think you know that, too.
The first black person that Braasch called the cops on, back in February, is a graduate student in the Divinity school. He had asked her directions to the same common room.
The Yale Daily News says the police found a pillow and blanket.
Plus, if you listen to all of the tape, Siyonbola herself says she was asleep on the sofa when the caller came into the room, turned on the lights and said she couldn’t sleep there.
My kids use a blanket and pillow to get comfortable on our couch when they are studying or doing work on a laptop. I do when I am watching tv at night too. Ok, or even in the middle of the day, lol.
Lots of people watch tv or do computer work with lights off at night.
It sounds like the caller made herself a type of neighborhood watch. It doesn’t seem like she wanted to use the common room herself at 1:30 in the morning, just that she didn’t want someone else to be napping in it.
Apparently it’s a no no to paste full FB post, so I will note a passage that struck a chord with me and urge readers to look at the full post.
The Black Student Alliance at Yale:
“ In fact, this was not the first time that Braasch called the police on a black student in the building, which speaks to the role that racial bias played in her decision-making process. This is especially disheartening due to the role that she could play in an undergraduate’s academic career. As a PhD student, Braasch has the potential to be a Teaching Fellow, responsible for grading the work of undergraduate students. Who is to say that her prejudices would not influence her interactions with students of color within the classroom?”
@HRSMom I posted that Oakland video earlier in this thread, but no one really commented. If you want to see fragility in action , that video is exhibit A.
If you mean reply #163, seems like it is the kind of incident that would make police officers’ eyes roll (reply #166).
No, the video was posted way upthread – probably several pages back now - I viewed it, but was left speechless & didn’t comment… though it is excellent example of really fine police work.
Proving that just because some crazy person summons the police to further their agenda of annoying or harassing someone else, doesn’t mean that the police have to buy into it or play along. It’s very possible for the police to check things out in a polite and inobtrusive way.
Ok, looks like direct link to the video was posted back in reply #57.
The video’s comments link to this article: https://panthertimes.com/2018/05/02/white-privilege-used-to-fight-racially-charged-harassment-at-lake-merritt/
@partyof5 yes, and many other things. The caller was obviously not afraid…a busybody with overt racist tendencies…
I’m still a little confused about the complainant . She seems to be 43 years old, obviously very accomplished.Has she lived communally before, called the cops before or tried to get Yale or residence life type people involved before (beyond this and the one in March)? Are there rules posted in communal rooms, such as no turning off lights, etc? With no RA’s, adults need to work to live together peacefully . The complainant was over the top in calling the police and they told her so , in what was clearly not a police matter .
@sevmom -
An article I read said that this woman called the police on an earlier occasion on a Yale student who lived in another dorm but came to that one for a program as a guest of the woman she called the police on. That begs the question - if she learned on the earlier occasion that this man was a guest of the woman she later called the police on and that woman lived in the dorm, why did she feel the need to call the police on that same woman? Of course, I am assuming that she even realized it was the same woman and wasn’t using the “they all look the same to me” line of thinking.
I personally think that this Ms. Braasch should be barred from campus housing.