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ABC said 15 dead.
I was in and out of a small school today. I don’t think there is any teacher, parent or student who doesn’t worry about this type of incident at least every so often.
While I’m not a huge fan of the slowdown that TSA has created…maybe…just maybe…we need metal detectors at the main school entrances. All other doors locked from the outside during the school day. I know that would not prevent all school shootings…but if we could stop some…we would be closer to where we need to be.
You may as well lock the post because there is no way to talk about it without talking about the underlying issues. Other than to say – tragic.
This hurts. To see the headline as I turned on the news, it really hurts. I’m very, very sad. I don’t know what else to say at the moment.
NBC reporting 17 dead. Another senseless tragedy.
Watch and listen to the cellphone video and then examine your heart and soul.
“You may as well lock the post because there is no way to talk about it without talking about the underlying issues. Other than to say – tragic.”
Sadly, it becomes a thread to post body counts.
And thoughts and prayers that do nothing.
NBC just showed the sheriff confirming 17 dead. The graphics are still showing ‘many’ dead, but the sheriff does seem to have the correct number. Horrible.
My bff covered the Columbine shooting (and won a Pulitzer for it), and a good friend of my sister is a doctor at the hospital where many of the injured were taken. It never leaves them.
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I don’t know their source, but CNN just announced 17 confirmed dead
“a good friend of my sister is a doctor at the hospital where many of the injured were taken. It never leaves them.”
The victims go well beyond those murdered or even those in the school that day and their families. I can’t imagine the lifetime scars each of these shootings has on an exponential number of people. How damaging to the fabric of this country.
Perhaps the kids taking videos of the actual shootings going on in their schools will finally wake people up. I got chills watching the snippet of a girl in the high school saying “oh no” and listening to the gunshots in the distance. I think our society is just numbed to all of this “talk” about these shootings by the media, but when you get to see what the children experience, it really changes perspective (I hope!). I’m so sad for the victims and their families. How scary it must feel for American kids to know that as a country, we are doing nothing new to protect them.
@vineyardview said:
I recently had a nightmare that DH, D2, and I were in our car at some kind of event. We were parked on grass and had a 3 year old boy in the car with us (who, I have no idea). All of a sudden, we heard the sound of automatic gunfire. I told DH to hurry hurry hurry and leave. He was being very slow about it, saying, “Ok, but I have to let that guy go first.” At that moment, all I cared about was getting our D and us out of there NOW. It was pure terror. When I woke up, I was shaking, and I was disturbed all day long. I thought many times that day that I was able to wake up and know that it didn’t really happen. But people present at these kinds of massacres are not able to do that. I imagine it affects them, their loved ones, the community, etc. for LIFE. These poor kids today have lost their innocence, never to be returned to them. They may be emotionally scarred permanently. Parents have lost the most important beings who have ever come into their lives. Children have likely lost parents if any teachers were killed.
It’s all so scary, horrifying, and sickening. I’m starting to see things online which suggest that this kid should have been on someone’s radar. At times like this, I feel a hopelessness for where our society is going.
I got in the car after my hair appointment and heard the bare bones story. First prayer is for no fatalities. I heard there were fatalities and next prayer is for limited fatalities. Flipped on Nightly News and they report 17 dead. Somehow knowing that number just guts me to hear this so soon after Marshall County shooting less than 30 miles from my house. I mentioned in the Marshall County thread that two of my colleagues had sons who witnessed the shooting, one’s S was next to one of the shooting victims as the incident unfolded. She says he will obviously be forever changed. The impact of these shootings ripples wide and it doesn’t end after a month or a year or any other period of time.
I was at an organizational meeting for “an organization” last week and we were asked to introduce ourselves and tell why we were there. First person identifies as aunt of shooting victim from local shooting 20 years ago sitting next to her SIL who was this victim’s mom. Another of his aunts is sitting next to me and I realize her son was in Boy Scouts with my S. The shooting victim I’m referencing is now an attorney who wrote an awesome editorial about the subject for the Courier-Journal. If you PM me, I will send you the link. In a small community, people have so many connections and almost everyone knows someone who carries some degree of scars from these tragedies.
My g/f just hung up the phone on me. She was saying she had dinner with her friend that had a child at that school. I in the past. I mentioned that my office member has a nephew at that school, and she didn’t know if he was safe. She knows this woman. When she went on about what and where she ate dinner with her friend, I said I didn’t care about the trivia. So, I’m the mean one. It is such a small world, there is no doubt that there will be personal losses.
Our high school is still reeling from the deaths of 3 students this fall. Kids are still traumatized. I don’t know how they move on. I will join my local Moms Demand Action group and make sure wherever D goes to college doesn’t have an open carry law.
Kl mom, this shooter was expelled for expressing threatening intents. I don’t think open carry policy has much to do with it. I don’t get how he was allowed on campus.
I don’t think he was ‘allowed’ on campus, I think he just went on campus.
In my town’s high school we can get in with things we want to drop off for someone else. No one would look through a sports bag or watch us walk to the office to drop it off.