Another travel thread: Any tips for Japan (Tokyo, Kyoto especially)?

I am suddenly in charge of planning a five-day trip to Japan, for the first week in July. The only thing for certain at this point is that we are flying into and out of Tokyo. Tokyo Disney is one request from my “kids” (the youngest is 20). Has anyone been there? Kyoto is my husband’s request–except he thinks we should drive there because the route is supposedly scenic. Two of us do have international driver’s licenses but I am not sure that driving in Japan is a really good idea. Not to mention that none of us speaks Japanese. I am thinking we should try to hire a local tour guide for at least one day that we are in Tokyo – I have read that the subway system can be hard to navigate (and again, no Japanese speakers).

Any and all help is appreciated.

My business partner and I took a train from Tokyo to Kyoto. Very smooth and easy way to travel and Kyoto has faaaar more to see than Tokyo.

We navigated Tokyo subway system just fine to get around the city. We saw everything Tokyo has to offer. I’ve been to Tokyo three times in the last three years and haven’t felt the need for a guide (and I don’t hesitate to get guides in foreign cities).

My son just spent two weeks in Inuyama and Kyoto. Had the time of his life. He says that most people understand English quite well and speak it to varying degrees. He also said that transportation in Japan makes sense and is easy to navigate.

Buy a JR East Pass. Unlimited train travel for any 5 days in a 14-day window. U can buy the pass in the train station at the airport when u land.
http://www.jreast.co.jp/e/eastpass/

Download free Google Translate app onto your smart phone. You can download a language pack which will enable you to translate even without internet service. U just point your phone’s camera at some text or characters, and the verbiage miraculously gets translated. U can also just speak into the phone and get a audio translation-- really useful for communicating w taxi drivers.

Toyko Disney is insanely crowded. A colleague just visited w his young family last month, and they had to wait 2 hours for some rides.

Driving in Japan is fine. We rent cars there frequently. None of us speaks or reads japanese. The road signage is in english, too. Plan ahead and request a car w English language GPS.

Definitely do the fish market in Tokyo–jaw dropping. But wear crappy shoes. Not necessary to be there in the early morning for the fish auction, if u are a late sleeper. Still worth seeing w/o the auction.

Am smiling at the thought of the poster who has been to Tokyo three times and has seen “everything” it has to offer. I live half the year in Tokyo and am still exploring that huge complex city. But the subway is easy to use, don’t worry about that. Five days is not actually that long. Many visitors do prefer Kyoto - the ancient capital. I do not as I OD easily on temples and shrines. Defintely shinkansen is the way to get there though - sit on the right hand side for close up view of Fujisan. Disneyland is popular spot for young adults - a place to go on dates, a wedding venue, -your ‘kids’ will not be out of place. How do you handle heat/ humidity? Kyoto, which sits in a valley, is particularly bad in summer. What are your interests? Art, design, architecture, technology, history, theatre, gardens, food, fashion…Japan offers inspiration on many levels. There are ‘guide’ services which are actually very reasonably priced ‘international friendship’ initiatives, allowing the guides oppotunity to practise their English and aimed at ’ non tourist’ destinations. As a resident with fair language ability, I have never used them but have read good things about, eg, the night tour of Golden Gai, alley of tiny bars in Shinjuku.

Rather than Tokyo Disney, I would do a day trip to Nikko and Kegon Falls (in the same town)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPoapIWnl04
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sA86NBzEV4

Bullet train to Kyoto is a fun hassle free way to travel between Kyoto and Tokyo. Kyoto is all about the palaces and shrines. The two palaces on the outskirts of town are particularly notable, but Kyoto is just filled with quintessentially Japanese gardens and shrines. Like this one – the famous zen garden:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2uLwcLJTaU

This one is located near the Golden Pavillion, another popular (for good reason) Kyoto landmark.

Tokyo is so big, it is best done by picking “neighborhoods” or sections. For example, Shinjuku/Harajuku are one or two subway train stops apart. For young adults, the park at the Harajuku train station is a hot spot and a short walk to the Meiji Shrine. So, that’s a whole day in one “neighborhood”.

Ginza at night. Definitely Ginza at night. The people watching (and neon) is terrific. To me, the essence of Tokyo is the hustle and bustle. It’s just insane. The main Imperial Palace is in this “neighborhood” so that might be another day (and evening).

The two times I’ve been to Japan, I’ve gotten around on the subways and trains. Get the JNR rail pass mentioned above. That will get you anywhere you would want to go.

I traveled to Kyoto with DH on a business trip last year. It was wonderful. We are amazed that there are 17 UNESCO World Heritage sights there. We stayed near the train station, and it was easy to navigate (mostly we used the bus). When I was alone I did 2 half day tours. We did a long daytrip to Hiroshima - glad we did it.

We are making a similar trip in a few weeks. We are flying into Narita (Tokyo) but then going elsewhere. From there we will fly to Osaka and take the bullet train to Kyoto, as there is no airport in Kyoto. We will then take the bullet train from Kyoto back to Narita.

Japan has excellent public transportation. I would not try to rent a car as you must concentrate on the driving and miss all the beautiful scenery. Driving is not that easy in Japan as the roads are quite congested, especially around Tokyo. Take the super fast Nozomi trains from Tokyo to Kyoto, it only takes 140 minutes while driving takes 6 hours.

The tourist information center in the Kyoto train station was very helpful in planning our day there.

Having been to both, I certainly prefer Kyoto. So much beauty. My favorite place was Arashiyama and the bamboo grove. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arashiyama. But it is all good.

If you have a love for countryside, Hakone, around the base of Fuji might be worth a stop between Tokyo and Kyoto. Personally, I love the onsen in the countryside, sitting in a big hot bath gazing at the scenery around you. Sex segregated, you need to have some tolerance for being naked with others as well as very hot water.

Even in a city, the bathhouses are an incredible experience.

Do some reading on manners. Incline your head as you are greeted entering a shop. Wear slip on shoes, and be good at donning and doffing as needed. Know that bathrooms have a separate set of slippers. Stay in a ryokan?

Wander, and don’t let your days be time pressured. There is much beauty in the details in Japan, the neighborhood gardens in Tokyo, the shrines and temples, the average street. Visit the basement of a department store and sample the food. Kyoto, decades ago had great department stores, and I assume that has not changed.

Bumping up for any last minute travel suggestions. Any recommendations for a hotel in Tokyo? How long does it take to get to Narita from The city by bullet train?

One hour on the Narita Express (it’s not a bullet train). Bullet train terminal is at Tokyo station, upstairs. I love watching the futuristic trains come and go. Bullet trains are on time within seconds. Narita Express is not.

There’s free wifi in Tokyo Station. Aboard the trains there are electric outlets by all the seats. Same voltage & plug shape as US.

In Tokyo station, pick up a bento box to bring aboard the bullet train. Lots of great food choices.

I mentioned JR East Pass in an earlier post. Sorry, forgot to mention that that pass cannot be used to Kyoto.

We were in Tokyo & Kyoto a couple years ago about the same time – very hot & steamy, so be prepared for that. Something that we messed up on – didn’t get tickets early enough – was the Studio Ghibli Museum. Accessible by public transportation (we did not try to drive anywhere; we did one of the rail passes) but not in central Tokyo by any means. http://www.ghibli-museum.jp/en/

The place I enjoyed most near Tokyo was Nikko. http://www.nikko-japan.org/ About an subway/hour train ride. Lovely, lovely, lovely.

Even as I type this, my D is in the air, flying non-stop from Narita to O’hare after an almost 3 week stay in Japan. By the time she lands at Reagan National at roughly 7:30 pm tonight, she will have experienced the longest Tuesday of her life, and still have 3 and a half hours left of it!

This was the fulfillment of a lifelong dream of hers, and she had a blast. She and her traveling companion stayed in ryokans (traditional guest houses, rather than conventional hotels) for most the the trip. We facetimed almost everyday, so she showed us her accommodations, which were comfortable, but spare, with tatami flooring, futon beds, low furnishings, and on-suite baths whose toilet rooms were separate from the bathing rooms. They spent several days in Tokyo, which is every bit as crowded and hectic as you’d expect, but is of course as varied as any of the world’s major cities, with tons to see and do. They had purchased JR passes that afforded them unlimited subway and train travel for the duration of their trip, so they used those to take the Shinkansen from Tokyo to Kyoto, as well as other towns around Kyoto. D much preferred Kyoto over Tokyo for it’s more natural setting, tons of temples and shrines and other historic sites. Her favorite place was the spectacular Fushimi Inari Shrine, which she hiked twice, the first time all the way to its 4km summit and back. She posted some pretty amazing photos on Facebook, among which were the thousands of vermillion red gates that line the path to the summit. They also visited lots of temples and castles, eat at lots of restaurants, and did more shopping than D would normally tolerate.

Unlike the experience of other posters, D said most people they encountered did not speak English, so it’s a good thing she’s fairly fluent, and can read the language well enough to have read the Harry Potter books in Japanese. D has been practicing Kendo for the past five years, so the reason for her visit was to attend the World Kendo Championships, which were held in Tokyo this year. However, they only spent two days out of their 3 week visit at this event. The rest was spent traveling, and trying to adjust to the time zone difference. Once she arrives home, she will be taking the rest of the week off to recover from her vacation. :))

Tokyo Disneyland is almost indistinguishable from the other Disneylands, so I would consider it a waste of a day in Japan unless you are a Disney buff checking off all the parks. I was there on its second anniversary in April 1985, age 9.

I speak some Japanese, but would not attempt driving there. There is no reason to, since the trains and other transport are so good and so reliable. Enjoy the wonderful eki-bento (train lunch boxes) and vending machines.

I’m sorry I didn’t see this thread earlier – my main advice for Japan in July would be to go north! Hokkaido is beautiful and comfortable at that time of the year. If you’re used to Atlanta or Houston summers, that’s what you should expect in Tokyo/Kyoto.

Some thoughts on Japan – not esp. organized, but maybe some useful info in there somewhere, lol.

Lots of yen for the dollar now – great time to travel.

We were in Japan last fall, and I would love to go back. We had an amazing trip last fall (November) to Tokyo and Kyoto. And Kumamoto, Hiroshima, Miyajima, Kobe. Kind of a whirlwind trip. Stayed in a couple of nice hotels in Tokyo – used hotwire to get four/five star hotels there. One of the hotels we got that way was the Conrad Hilton. I love that place, though I don’t think I would ever pony up the retail price to get it. Maybe someday, when my ship comes in. :slight_smile: The Kyoto hotel we stayed in was less nice, but close to the train station, and absolutely fine. Kyoto hotels were pretty booked when we went. Can’t remember how I got that hotel. Maybe through hotels.com. Hotwire, Priceline and Hotels.com are what I tend to use. Apparently everyone loves Kyoto in the fall. The train station in Kyoto is huge. We got lost in there more than once. Beautiful gardens and temples in Kyoto. We were only there for two days, and I think I need to go stay there for at least two weeks sometime. Also, the big Japanese department stores are fascinating to me. Bottom floors full of fabulous food. Actually, every place we ate in Japan had really good food, IMO. I don’t normally eat raw fish, but I do when in Tokyo, because I trust that it is extremely fresh.

We found that there weren’t always good English speakers everywhere. Esp. in Hiroshima. I think you can get by in Tokyo and Kyoto okay, though. People were very helpful, everywhere, if you just ask, and somehow we managed to communicate. One thing that might be helpful – ask the concierge at the hotel to write down in Japanese (next to your English version) the places you want to go see that day. If you find you can’t communicate, show the Japanese writing to someone, and you will have more luck communicating, and will likely be pointed in the right direction. Also, if you have to take a taxi, it helps to have your destination written in Japanese. I speak some Japanese – very little – but can get the pronunciation close if I focus, and that helps. If you aren’t pronouncing the destination right, though, no one will understand you. So, the written version is handy to have.

Do learn to say thank you and excuse me in Japanese, if nothing else. It is a very polite society.

Some of my favorite places in Tokyo – Ueno park (esp. during Cherry Blossom season) and Asakusa (lots of shops, crowded and kind of touristy, but I love it) and I also am fascinated by the 7 - 11 stores in Japan.

One of the highlights of our trip was a visit to a Japanese toolmaker located near Kobe. My husband does woodworking and has the tools made by this man. He really wanted to visit a tool maker while there. So we did. There are people in Japan who like to give tours for free (you just pay for transportation and food and, of course, give them a thank you gift, but no tips – mostly you don’t tip in Japan.) I was skeptical, but we found a tour guide through some website, can’t remember exactly which one. It worked out very well. Our tour guide was a lovely woman, and spoke excellent English and helped us ride the bus to a small town. The tool maker met us at the bus stop, and gave us a ride to his work place and showed us where he made tools, and then brought us to his house and also gave us a ride to a shopping center where he sells his tools, and where we ate lunch. My husband loved it, and I enjoyed it too.

Bring a few souvenirs or something from America to give as a gift if you are meeting anyone there, or if you end up meeting someone who helps or befriends you. Gift giving is big there. It doesn’t have to be expensive.

We had a JR pass, which was very useful. I think you have to get it before you leave the US though? Can’t remember. – Maybe another poster can advise whether I am remembering that correctly or not.

I don’t recommend driving as I recall remarkably few signs are in English especially once you get off the beaten track. And the trains are great. Do stay at a ryokan - we did twice, though I admit that the arrival and departures were facilitated by English speaking professor friends of dh’s who helped us understand what the routine was going to be. That way when we got an unintelligible call at a particular hour we were able to guess it was bath time or dinner time.

We did not spend enough time in Kyoto and I believe you have to reserve a time to see the beautiful zen gardens there.

Instead of going to Disneyland why don’t you go to the Japanese version? Our kids favorite thing in Japan (8 and 12 at the time) was Edo Wonderland - which is kind of like a Renaissance Faire. Lots of acting in the street which we could understand, mazes, craft demonstration, and the “house of illusions” which all of us loved. http://www.japan-guide.com/e/e3879.html

OK- Have our lodging set. Will be in Okinawa for several days, then flying to Osaka and taking the train to Kyoto. Will be there, staying in a ryokan for 2 nights (1 1/2 days or so) and then taking the train for 1 day in Tokyo (staying in the Shinjuku district) for one night before heading back on the train to Narita. We have our Japan rail passes and the hotels set (used hotel points for some of the stays, got adventurous for others). Any “must see” stuff in Kyoto (have the bamboo garden and golden palace on the list) and good walking tour sites in the Shinjuku section of Tokyo?