<p>Asian parents know how other asian parents parent.</p>
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I am only a high school graduate at this point.
Should I say rising university student?</p>
<p>lolwut? </p>
<p>Hmm previous post you mean stats of applicant?
4.0
2380
SAT2
800 Math2 Chinese Biology
IB diploma
Keyclub + other generic volunteer
Some science competition.
No sports
Mothers a professor, picked a lot of activities I can’t be arsed to find more out about.</p>
<p>Generic, but strong SAT along with the rigor of the IB diploma made it.</p>
<p>And Amy Chua produces those results.</p>
<p>Extra curriculars should not just be taken to “get into college” but as because a student enjoys it. Therefore there is no set list of what a person should take or what a person shouldn’t take. If an asian student just happens to like playing the piano or violin and excels in academics, then they should keep pursuing that. If they don’t like to play bagpipes or percussion they shouldn’t take it up just to get into college. As long as they show dedication to whatever they choose, then that will be ok for colleges. You are not applying to a band, your applying to college. What specific instrument you play doesn’t really matter all that much as compared to your grades. Therefore, if you have interests follow them, regardless of the fact that they may be like a lot of other people or not. Like let’s say an asian student really likes chess and starts a chess club, should (s)he not have just because other asians might do the same? </p>
<p>As for parents, they are responsible for their child as the child is growing up. They may introduce their children to certain activities that their children may enjoy. When the child is young, a parent may have to discipline them to study or practice an instrument, but when the child is old enough the parent can only guide and let the teen make his/her own decision. Amy Chua’s method is a too extreme. She had to learn to release her control from her children and let them do what they want. The parent shouldn’t be writing the child’s college applications for them. Now if the student pushes themself with parental support, then that’s even better!</p>
<p>Yes there are “perfect-scoring” students who are declined from Ivy Leagues but that really happens with every race. And while these students are declined, other students with lower scores are accepted. Why? Because the college wants a diverse student body. But does that mean you should slack off and not do your hardest on your grades? Does that mean you should join activities that you don’t like and/or give up activities that you do like just to impress an admissions officer? Absolutely not! </p>
<p>Just try your hardest, do what you love and everything is going to work out. You might get into your dream school. Even if you didn’t get into Harvard or something you will get into another Ivy League.</p>
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Spot on. But the thing is, not all of the Asian students actually do enjoy playing the violin. Some might do: then by all means follow your passion.</p>
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Amy Chua did not produce those results. Most Asian parents have a common sense in educating their children.</p>
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Another spot-on.
I fully agree with you. At least for me, I never really liked playing the piano. Come on, for children, beatboxing looks much cooler than piano. </p>
<p>Also, I really hate Amy Chua. Just because you put your children in college doesn’t mean that you have to ruin it for many Asians, Amy. You describe Asian parenting as an inhumane process and to be honest, if I were the admissions officer, I wouldn’t want to admit another Asian kid under parental pressure.</p>
<p>Who knows what they are going to do?
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<p>Oh hey, another Asian applicant with near-perfect scores and standard EC’s raised by the Tiger Mom method.
He seems perfectly fine, but… maybe the parental pressure could lead to suicides in college. Oh, do we really want him? Come on, do we want him to commit suicide in our school? We are going to ruin our reputation. Screw it. Let’s don’t pick him.</p>
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<p>They do? Then what are you so agitated about?</p>
<p>I think the way that people turn out with parents who are very authoritarian really depends on the child. Some may Rebel against their parents, some may oblige, some may just shrug it off and some may be very depressed and suicidal about it. It all really depends on individual cases.</p>
<p>To be fair a lot of people of other races may have similar stats (grades n ecs). And u can’t just automatically assume that anyone who has these stats are crazy and suicidal. Many stories about murderers have the family friends and neighbors of the person saying that they were the “kindest person with good grades” just like any normal person. So there’s no way an admissions counselor is gonna look at ones resume and go “hmm piano, violin and straight As!?! Must be a psychopath! Next!”</p>
<p>But u cannot just assume that just because u have a specific amnt of stats that u were raised by a tiger mom, forced into it (as opposed to choosing it by yourself), or suicidal.</p>
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<p>Anyone can get 2400 in SAT. That’s not really the market of a great academic.</p>
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<p>Just high school years? Kids need to be pushed from age 3-4. Carnegie Hall doesn’t just happen, you know? The Amy Chua method works.</p>
<p>@IndianParent</p>
<p>Children are not robots. You cannot program a specific set of instructions into them and expect them to all turn out the same. Perhaps it does work for some children but it will not work for other children. For some kids they may turn out to be brilliant contributors to society. Others not so much. Amy chua even admitted that it did not work on her second daughter who ended up rebelling at her ways. </p>
<p>Another problem with her method is that it takes the kids life out of their hands. If children are always being told what to do, follow the rules no questions asked, will they be able to survive in the real world? They will always need an authority figure similar their parent to depend on. And if so how will they ever be able to take on important leadership positions? It is for this reason that I advocate that parents pay guide their children and not force them. Let them stand on their own from time to time, to make their own decisions, mistakes and learn from them. Because it is better to make those mistakes when u are still under the care of a parent who can help u bail out then in the real world when u are all on ur own.</p>
<p>Jenny, Amy Chua missed one arrow in her quiver - bribes. If she deployed that right, her younger daughter wouldn’t rebel either.</p>
<p>^^ haha</p>
<p>That’s how my parents got me to study and get good grades. </p>
<p>But truthfully there are other ways to get ur child to succeed. But no method is perfect. Parents can use whatever method they want, but none is “failproof”</p>
<p>I think the key thing is to stand out since there are so many Asian applicants and some applicants do seem alike on paper based on their EC activities.</p>
<p>Your parents are wise, Jenny. The real world runs totally on bribes. That is the one method known to human kind that is guaranteed to work 80%-90% of the time.</p>
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Um, NO. There is an important difference between an incentive, reward, bonus, motivator (whatever one wants to call it) and a bribe. These are not interchangeable words or concepts.</p>
<p>That’s just semantics.</p>
<p>No, you are being reductionistic and inflammatory again. There is a huge difference between these concepts, the way they are handled and the impact they have on others.</p>
<p>I am being reductionist indeed, but I am not being inflammatory. I am not responsible for the reactions of others. But the whole world runs on bribes. Otherwise there would be no concept such as a salary. We would have a communal world idolized by Marx.</p>