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<p>A/c unit is fairly new, installed in 2002 and had a full warranty until May 2008. July 2008, we had a major problem. The condensation water from the coils was leaking out to the whole unit. I cleaned the coils, made sure the drain is not plugged, and put in a new filter. Continue to see water on basement floor when A/C is operating. </p>

<p>It was apparent after a close examination that condensations were taking place outsie of the pan and those water drip down to the base of the unit and then drain out to the basement floor. </p>

<p>After much research, I came to the suspection that the freon might be low. called in an A/C tech and pumped $300 worth of freon. No more water.</p>

<p>This year, turn the A/C on - water again. </p>

<p>I don’t understand - why low freon could cause additional condensation outside of the coil condensation pan. Could there be any thing else that could cause this water problem?</p>

<p>If one year leaks out that much Freon, I will have to get someone to put a UV dye so we could find the leak. </p>

<p>Any of these could be DIY?</p>

<p>Thanks in advance.</p>

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<p>One of my colleagues told me it might be because it continue to run for a long time. Since it was our first day of A/C and it was very humid. We will try it again and stop the A/C if it runs continuously for a long time.</p>

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<p>First of all, it doesn’t do any good to put Freon (puron, or other such) without first sealing the leak. It is just going to leak out. If you want to get by for the summer, then fine. But you are looking to keep it for 5+ more years.</p>

<p>Thinking about how an A/C works: you have the outside compressor where it compresses the freon gas, gas gets hot, hot gas is run through the outside coils, that cools it off, gas is allowed to expand where it turns into a cold liquid.</p>

<p>The cold liquid is piped into the home. The cold liquid is then piped through the Heat Exchanger, where it warms up the liquid back into a gas. The gas is then piped back out to the compressor outside.</p>

<p>The heat exchanger is where the inside air is cooled, and water condenses in the process. That condensate drips to the drip pan. The drip pan channels the water to the drain pipe.</p>

<p>So, other than on the Heat Exchanger, where can water condense? It can condense on the sides of the air ducts. It can also consense on the cold pipe feeding the heat exchanger. The drip pan should extend to the air duct walls and collect condensate from the walls. The cold pipe should be wrapped in foam to keep water from condensing on it.</p>

<p>So, what can low freon do? The pressure in the system will be low. When the compressor outside compresses the gas, the low pressure keeps the gas from heating up as hot. Thus you have warmer cold liquid comming back into the house. I can’t see how being low on freon would cause condensate problems. The system tends not to work, or work as well. Not cause water to condense where it shouldn’t.</p>

<p>So, back to the heat exchanger. That’s the place where water is condensing. Properly installed, the water will drip onto the drip pan. Typically, the heat exchanger is A shaped, with the peak in the middle. The area under the middle is open (to allow the air to flow through). By gravity, the water drips along the sides of the A to the outside edges of the heat exchanger. So, the drip pan only covers the outside edges of the Heat Exchanger.</p>

<p>Possible problems with the drip pan:</p>

<p>1) Drain line clogged (you checked that).
2) Crack in the drip pan.
3) Drip pan does not cover the entire bottom edge of the heat exchanger.
4) Drip pan is not level, so the water is pouring over an edge.
5) Bad seal between the edge of the drip pan and the side walls allowing water to drip down the walls between the gap.</p>

<p>Other possible problems:</p>

<p>Heat exchanger is not properly positioned over the drip pan.
Heat exchanger is not level, so water is dripping off the middle, rather than the ends.</p>

<p>Given that it has worked for years, and only now is giving you a problem, things I would check are:</p>

<p>1) Is the humidifer leaking?
2) Drip pan drain
3) Crack in the drip pan.
4) Seal between side wall and drip pan
5) If you remove the humidifier, sometimes you can look at the Heat Exchanger. If so, see if you can see where the water is coming from.
6) Is the Heat Exchanger still level?</p>

<p>It is possible that when the technician looked at your heat exchanger, he repositioned it before pumping in more freon. If he didn’t secure the heat exchanger, it just might have come loose again. Thought: In the process of comming loose, the movement of the heat exchanger might have caused a crack in the pipe that let the freon leak out.</p>

<p>If I were you, I would open up the system and try to see where the water is coming from.</p>

<p>Update: Neighbor refered a family own A/C repair service - found the Freon is low due to a leak on the A-coil. It needs to be replaced and the cost — ouch ouch $750!!!</p>

<p>ouch, ouch. That is on top of today’s service call and freon.</p>

<p>I would ask them to explain how the low freon caused the water problem. I do not doubt that the freon was low. I’m just curious how it could cause a water problem. It might be 2 separate problems, and I would want to make sure it is addressed so you don’t pay for another service call.</p>