Any Hope For English Language Learner


<p>I'm senior in high school. I'm really worrying about colleges because of my English.
Is it impossible to get acceptance to a college with my bad English?
(I'm permanent resident and living in Texas.)</p>

<p>Do I have any chance for ivies(or any good school)? I have moved to America two years ago, I'm good on other subjects , but my English is very bad. Is it impossible to get in ivies or other top colleges with bad English?</p>

<p>My gpa is : 4.17
sat : 770 Math 430 reading 390 writing(I'm retaking it but I don't think it will do so much difference.)
sat 2 : 800 math level2 800 physics 790 chemitry
act : 25
Ap: (I took 4 aps in my junior year(3-5s and 1-4) this year I'm taking 2 ) </p>

<p>Extra Curriculars:
I'm in robotics team since 10th grade and we won several awards as a team.(I wasn't in the Us in 9th grade.)
science olympiad(bronze medal on regional)
debate(I started this year, I think it is one of the best way to improve my English )</p>

<p>Work experience:
I have just started to internship in web design company.</p>

<p>I was a really succesfull student in Turkey( %1 percentile on national exam, bronze medal on international project olympiad,and this project appeared in some newspapers and tvs., and some other awards.) </p>

<p>But here I don't think any colleges want a student with bad English skills? </p>

<p>Do I have any chance for good colleges or do I have to go an open admission college?</p>


<p>Please look over these topics from the Harvard Writing Center: [The</a> Writing Center - Writing Resources](<a href=“]The”></p>

<p>At Harvard, or any selective college, you will be graded on your ability to write a persuasive argument, narrative, critique or essay. If you cannot do that, you will flunk your classes and be put on a mandated leave. </p>

<p>See: [Minimum</a> Requirements Handbook for Students 2011-2012](<a href=“]Minimum”></p>

<p>“To meet the minimum academic requirements in any term, a student may have at most one failing grade, which may not be accompanied by another unsatisfactory grade; and at least two satisfactory grades, one of which must be a letter grade in an FAS course taken for degree credit (or in a course taken by cross-registration and counted toward concentration or UTEP requirements). A student who fails to meet the minimum requirements ordinarily will be required to withdraw for two terms, whether or not his or her previous record was unsatisfactory.”</p>

<p>So, it’s imperative that your English be better than your 390 in Writing. My suggestion is for you to apply to a local community college in Texas until you are proficient in English.</p>

<p>Thank you for your answer.</p>

<p>So there is no hope for ivy league college? Or(it doesn’t have to be ivy league) even another good college?
I could get 500 in practice tests(when there is no time limit)I know it is still bad , but could it be enough for admission???</p>

<p>( BTW my major is computer science , could it help for admission?)</p>

<p>Students that are accepted to Ivy League schools generally have a 600+ in writing. A 500 is really not good enough, even if you could achieve that score on a real test. It’s the same with most selective colleges.</p>

<p>You might try these schools: [A+</a> Schools for B Students | Top National Universities | US News Best Colleges](<a href=“]A+”>, but your inability to write is going to negatively effect your chances of admission just about anywhere.</p>

<p>As gibby alluded previously, the real problem isn’t getting in, it’s whether you’re going to be able to make it once you get to a particular school.</p>

<p>Part of the reason top schools look for kids with excellent test scores and grades is that they’re looking for students who will be able to succeed at their schools. Even for someone majoring in computer science, it will be very difficult, perhaps impossible, to survive at a top school without very good English language skills.</p>

<p>Perhaps you might talk to your guidance counselor about your college options. Your counselor may be the person who is able to point you in the appropriate direction, whether it’s to engage in some sort of program to rapidly improve your English language skills, or whether it’s to focus on other colleges and universities that might be a better fit.</p>

<p>This is from Harvard’s website concerning international students. It doesn’t directly apply to you, because you’re actually attending school in Texas, and thus, as far as I can tell, wouldn’t be considered an international applicant:</p>

<p>"English Language Proficiency</p>

<p>“A strong knowledge of English is essential for successful study at Harvard, including the ability to understand and express thoughts quickly and clearly.” </p>

<p>Thus, even for international students, strong facility in English is necessary.</p>