<p>I have a feeling this is going to be another election with a Republican elected President. At least this time it will be John McCain, the “liberal conservative”.</p>
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<p>Oh, along the lines you mean of “compassionate conservatism” as a ploy to get the nation to think that the future (at that point) Bush Administration would actually be compassionate and do things other than lower taxes only for the wealthy, try to reduce social security through “private accounts,” send off the grunts to fight a useless war? That kind of ploy?</p>
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<p>(long and deep sigh…) The above is sad, but probably quite true. I actually loved it when former Presidents, Bush and Clinton teamed up to help the Tsunami victims. </p>
<p>It defies my imagination that people would actually prefer partisan hostilities to extend even beyond retirement.</p>
<p>mini, teriwtt: That is very true, but the fact is that this primary is not being fought on the basis of delegates at the moment, since I think it’s pretty clear that neither candidate has the delegate counts to take the nomination before convention unless the other drops out.</p>
<p>The reason everyone is focusing on Hillary’s ability to win the primaries in OH and TX is because the campaign right now is being fought on intangibles like momentum, and who “can” win. Everyone (read: the media) seems to think that if Hillary can win these decisively (doesn’t have to even the delegate count, just send a message) and can continue that, she will be the nominee, while if BO wins it’s over for her. And to a large extent, I think that opinion (baseless as it may or may not be) could well end up deciding exactly how the campaign goes. Even though with a small Hillary victory in both states she still won’t have anywhere near the delegates she needs, she’ll stop BO’s momentum and start up some of her own - and this season, momentum seems to have been paramount.</p>
<p>Momentum WOULD be paramount if there were lots of states to go. There are indeed a few - like North Carolina and Oregon and Utah (I think) where Obama will sweep the board. But there’s just not enough delegates out there for Hillary to catch up EITHER in the delegate count OR the number of states count OR the number of votes count.</p>
<p>^ Yeah, but she will never give up… :eek:</p>
<p>mini: I have seen you posting that magic 20 number. Do you have any basis for that?</p>
<p>Yes. Newsweek a couple of weeks ago ran the only scenario by which they thought Hillary could break even in the delegate count.</p>
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<p>Not Utah. Obama already won the Utah primary back on Super Tuesday.</p>
<p>I think they did it wrong. After I posted I just did a quick calculations. On an average Clinton won by 12% (in NJ, NY, CA, MA and AZ) and she won about 57% of delegates. Obama won by an average of 22.5% (in WI, VA, MD and LA). and won 60.5% of delegates.</p>
<p>seems that we stupid democrates (just like our public school system) don’t reward higher performance.</p>
<p>Any way, if I take 12% for OH, TX and PA she will be about 20 short. Bottom line no one will have the magic number.</p>
<p>“^ Yeah, but she will never give up…”</p>
<p>she should not till PA.</p>
<p>Rush Limbaugh wants Hillary to stay in the race so McCain will win!</p>
<p>According to CNN, “We need Barack Obama bloodied up politically. It’s obvious that the Republicans are not going to do it, they don’t have the stomach for it,” Limbaugh continued. "As you probably know we’re getting all kinds of memos from the RNC saying we’re not going to be critical. Mark McKinnon of McCain’s campaign said he’ll quit if they get critical over Obama. This is the presidency of the United States we’re talking about. I want our party to win I want the Democrats to lose.”</p>
<p>"Limbaugh has been actively urging his Texas listeners to cross over and vote for Clinton in that state’s open primary Tuesday, arguing it helps the Republicans if the Democratic race remains unsettled for weeks to come.</p>
<p>“I want Hillary to stay in this…this is too good a soap opera,” Limbaugh told fellow conservative talk-show host Laura Ingraham on Fox News Friday. He reiterated the comments on his Monday show and replayed the exchange with Ingram."</p>
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<p>I can’t wait. I’m caucusing for the first time.</p>
<p>Of course Clinton isn’t going to win by 20, but she doesn’t need to. I think Clinton knows as well as anyone that she’s not going to surpass Obama in # of delegates. What she can do is win TX/OH and shorten the distance between her and Obama. If she doesn’t drop out this race WILL be decided by superdelegates…and the closer she is with Obama the better her argument will be when she tries to convince them to vote for her. There’s no way she’s going to come back and beat Obama in # of delegates but the point is she doesn’t need to.</p>
<p>Don’t think Hilary is going to pull it out of the fire on Tuesday but her and Bill’s ego aren’t going to let her “quit”. They will drag this on till they’ve destroyed the party’s chances and McCain will win bringing 4 more years of Bush mania.</p>
<p>McCain has admitted he knows nothing about economics. He’s an old school, let’s choose up sides and battle it out kinda guy. Has already said he’d stay in Iraq 100 years if that’s what it takes. I’m convinced he’d go back into Vietnam if they’d let him. He is a dinosaur.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, utimately, this country is not ready for a candidate like Obama.</p>
<p>As the old Who song said…Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. If you love “W” here comes more of the same.</p>
<p>“Unfortunately, utimately, this country is not ready for a candidate like Obama.”</p>
<p>What attributes do you perceive Senator Obama possessing that we aren’t ready for? (Cause he’s so unpopular.)</p>
<p>Even my 75yo Republican mother is voting for Obama. Go figure. If my mom will vote for him, I think many, many others will, too.</p>
<p>“Even my 75yo Republican mother is voting for Obama. Go figure. If my mom will vote for him, I think many, many others will, too”</p>
<p>I think that’s right, and the fact that many republicans aren’t wild about McCain helps that dynamic.</p>
<p>zoosermom, in my work for Obama, I have met many others your mom’s age who feel the same! Including one of my fellow online matched donors who hadn’t voted Democratic since 1960.</p>
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<p>Is that why every poll shows McCain pulls more dems than Obama pulls repubs? But hey if one 75 yr old woman will cross party lines this is clearly indicitive of a greater trend!</p>