<p>Thumper,</p>
<p>that was a typo. I have only had the dishwasher for 24 years, not 34, but you are correct, the new one was a good buy. I’ll post it there.</p>
<p>Just bumping this up in case anyone has any other advice. My KitchenAid’s heating element cracked in two and the repair requires replacing the control board too (of course!) so to repair would cost $400 for a DW i paid $900 for!</p>
<p>Consumer Reports just listed a $700 Bosch as a Best Buy, so I will check that out. I really can live without all the bells and whistles, especially since they are what go wrong often. Growing up our DW lasted for probably 15-20 years. The repair man said the average life pan now is 7-12 years and mine is 9.5.</p>
<p>I definitely have to bring plates and glasses with me to try. Because of the spray arms etc, my original builder grade DW couldn’t hold a full meal’s worth of dishes, there was so much wasted space.</p>
<p>See my post #19. Still feel same about this model of kitchenaid.</p>
<p>Well in doing more research I came upon (again) the problem of fires with the kitchen aid brand, among others. </p>
<p>I think I may have been lucky I didn’t have a fire. My controls went wonky first and I think that made the heating element work overtime. A couple of weeks ago one of my plastic cutting boards melted a little but I thought I’d put it in a bad spot in the washer. </p>
<p>It also made some popping noises last week which was also reported by people who’d had fires. </p>
<p>So I’m a little leery of units that use that same part. Of course maybe they have worked it out by now, I’ll have to read a little more.</p>
<p>Hi! Based largely on you guys, :), I bought a low/mid range Bosch. Just installed today.</p>
<p>I have questions!</p>
<p>I’m running a test cycle and it makes a watery gurgling sound–is this a problem?</p>
<p>Do I need to use this Finish stuff, or can I use my usual environmentally friendly stuff? Also, I never use “drying” aids in my other dishwasher–will I have soggy dishes if I don’t?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>If mine gurgles I don’t notice it and my kitchen is open to my family room. </p>
<p>I use Finish in the powder form. It’s very inexpensive and what Bosch recommends, so. </p>
<p>When the cycle ends my dishes/glasses are completely dry (but very hot to the touch.) The only water is on the top of some of the glasses which have an indented bottom. If I remember I throw some Jetdry in but, tbh, I haven’t done that in a very long time. </p>
<p>I didn’t even know I didn’t have a drying cycle until people on this board told me I didn’t!</p>
<p>You might have wetter dishes without the rinse aid. As I understand Bosch, it does not use a heating element to dry the dishes, but rather evaporation.</p>
<p>I have been very happy with our new Bosch - dishes are very clean. My old DW has the perfect loading capacity and I can’t quite fit the bowls in the same, but I love the flatware third rack</p>
<p>hmmm. it sort of sounds like it’s raining in there.</p>
<p>Funny, I just replaced my top of the line Bosch after only four years. It looked good and was quiet but was finicky in that I had to frequently clean out the drain. An electronic board went out and the part alone was half the price of my new dishwasher. I just got a GE Adora pot scrubber. It had very high reviews. It seems quieter than the Bosch and will dry the dishes if I choose. The Bosch’s dishes were always very wet. The new one was $150 off over Columbus Day weekend with free delivery and installation from Home Depot. FWIW I always try to buy appliances over a holiday weekend for discounts. Veteran’s Day is coming up!</p>
<p>P.S. It was made in the U.S.
P.P.S. I just saw you already bought a Bosch. I liked mine too- at first.</p>
<p>That doesn’t sound right. I can’t even tell when mine is running and often forget until it beeps.</p>
<p>Bosch is sending a repairman
Monday. It didn’t sound right to them, either.</p>
<p>:(</p>
<p>If there has been a leak, make sure they clean it up properly. A friend had to tear out his entire kitchen a year after an improperly installed dw. The water created black mold under the floor!</p>
<p>Thanks! It sounds like all inside the machine, but I’ll be on the lookout.</p>
<p>I still love my Bosch…purchased last winter. It is very quiet. Occasionally it makes a funny noise, but when I check, it is often because some small dish is in the way of the water flow. My dishes are clean, and dry (tops of some glasses are wet but it takes just a few seconds to dry them all). </p>
<p>I didn’t know they made powdered finish! Mine has a dispenser for liquid finish, so that is what I use. Can I use the powdered in their??</p>
<p>I am hoping I will feel the same way after they take a look at it.</p>
<p>“I didn’t know they made powdered finish! Mine has a dispenser for liquid finish, so that is what I use. Can I use the powdered in their??”</p>
<p>I’m confused. The Finish is detergent. The liquid dispenser is for the Jet Dry.</p>
<p>Do you mean the Finish pods or tabs? My Bosch came with a box of them (“Free!”) and they are recommended for this DW. Consumers had recommended the Cascade tablets so I was using them anyway. I haven’t used powder in a few months.</p>
<p>I buy the big box of powder Finish. Much less expensive then the pods. I fill the dispenser up to the line. I think I pay about $3.50 for the box.</p>
<p>Oops! You are right…it’s the Jet Dry! Bosch recommends Finish, and we even got samples with ours. I use plain old powdered dishwasher soap and it works beautifully in my Bosch.</p>
<p>Our Bosch had leaking problems when it wasn’t that old. I will not buy another one.</p>