<p>I am! If you want to find one near you put your zip code into this web site:</p>
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<p>Christopher Hitchens mentions in a Slate column yesterday that David Duke agrees with Cindy’s concerns about the Jewish cabal sending America’s sons and daughters off to Iraq to fight in defense of Israeli interests. Perhaps you’ll run into him.
<a href=“http://politics.slate.msn.com/id/2124500/[/url]”>http://politics.slate.msn.com/id/2124500/</a></p>
<p>I am, at the beach in SF, in the fog…</p>
<p>Driver, I suppose you agreed with the man that ran over all the crosses in Crawford. No that was classy. He thinks we should be in the war, so I guess you can run into him…</p>
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Those are Cindy Sheehan’s own words, and they happened to strike a chord with David Duke. What a surprise. No one I know has advocated the kind of reckless anti-protest such as that perpetrated by the guy in the truck. He’s been arrested and charged with a crime, as is proper. I think Hitchen’s larger point–that despite her terrible grief, she has no right to “ventriloquize the dead”–is spot on. Enjoy your fog.</p>
<p>Weenie, yeah I am going…my mom, me and my Ds. H is working. I will be thinking about all the sacrafices so many families have made.</p>
<p>Driver:
And, I perhaps, one day, may have said something that McCarthy might have agreed with. Oh, I am not perfect and neither is Cindy. That does not mean her wanting to know why we are at war and what the NOBLE CAUSE is, is not a valid request.</p>
<p>People are not perfect. Not everything they believe will I agree with. That is okay. </p>
<p>I am not sure about Israel, I go back and forth. That is my right. I have often agreed with what our Administration has done, and disagreed.</p>
<p>But, isn’t it interesting that the pundits that disagree with her, spoke for her dead son. How convenient they had that ability.</p>
<p>My whole family will be attending a local gathering also, just as we did after the 1,000th US soldier was killed last year.</p>
<p>I just signed myself and my family up for tomorrows vigil.</p>
<p>Wow…I didn’t know people actually took her seriously. To each his (or her) own, I guess…</p>
<p>I think people take the war- and the reasons why soliders are over there & over there very seriously-
So does the president- what would this country be without the opportunity for peaceful dissent?</p>
<p>this woman is hilarious…I love how she is whoring herself out to the media. One minute she says the president showed compassion, etc. then the next minute she turns around and says the complete opposite. She learned well from Kerry.</p>
<p>I do hate to get into these back-and-forths, but gee willikers, what an honest and consistent president we have. He never says ANYthing contradictory or inconsistent or underhanded or stupid.</p>
<p>You can wash my mouth out with soap for telling a lie, now, Grandma, I deserve it.</p>
<p>Grieving people say inconsistent things. She is not a skilled politician who has learned to craft every word to play to their own advantage. She also has not stooped to inuendo, deliberately misleading statements designed to frighten, and outright lies. Cindy also does not have a team of image makers and damage controllers to clean up for her. You are mistaken about her having learned anything from ANY politician, she is just one of us.</p>
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<p>You sort of hit the nail on the head. I’m tired of a government that can’t listen to regular people. If you aren’t an oil compnay or a right wing insider you have no voice in this country anymore. If anybody should be demanding answers for this war it is mothers. Why are we there? How are we going to get out? How can you justify breeding more terrorists to “free” Iraq? And I understand how incredibly tough it is for the military families to have to question their huge sacrifices. But, I think it’s time for Americans to support our troops and force somebody to come up with a plan.</p>
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<p>I don’t suppose you see any hint of sexism in that comment. I guess the role of fathers truly is nothing more than one of sperm donator. </p>
<p>The mother’s (and father’s) that I feel sorry for are the majority who believe that their sons and daughters died for a noble cause who see all the media buzzing around Sheehan who says the opposite. I particularly feel sorry for Casey Shehan’s other family members, including his father, who see Casey’s death being made into a political event despite the fact that Casey himself would have opposed it. Afterall, he did re-enlist to fight in Iraq and did volunteer for the noble mission which ultimately took his life. Too bad Cindy never listened to Casey - I’m sure Casey could have given her a firsthand account of why the war was worth it.</p>
<p>fundingfather-could you explain to me why the war in Iraq is worth it?
Not just to fight terror-or elsewewouldbe in Saudi Arabia installing democracy and we would not be neutral with Pakistan and India only the worlds largest democracy.</p>
<p>I am not a Bush hater and I am willing to listen but the war in Iraq I disagree with.</p>
<p>Tom, I see you are new here. I have listed my reasons many times in other posts. I suggest that you do a search on my screen name for these entries. However, one of the pieces of evidence that the war was worth it comes from those who are actually doing the sacrifice - the soldiers and marines who have a firsthand account of what the real situation is in Iraq, not the view that the media chooses to show. They are overwhelmingly in support of the effort.</p>
<p>weenie thanks so much for posting that link. There’s a vigil in our town tonight and I’ll be there!!<br>
andi</p>
<p>No matter what your view of the warI did not support the idea of going to war, in the beginningor your view of a grieving mother, the significant factor seems to be that the man (not the son: Mr Shehans personal status was/is not derivativethis would only deprive him, in life and memory, of his own unique status as a person composed of a series of beliefs and purposes) himself died doing what he had dedicated himself to dowhat I assume he believed in, unless we are to think of him as an amoral agent willing to kill or be killed for no purpose. </p>
<p>Although I doubt he hoped to die in that effort, I would assume that if he did he would want his life to be remembered as having been devoted to a noble purpose, not an amoral impulse.</p>
<p>His mother does not believe in the war. Perhaps she doesnt believe in war as such based on her own ethical reasons which I would assume all pre-date her sons sacrifice. This is a worthy belief, many hold it. Such reasons may be, to her, fascinating and even absolute reasons to oppose this or any war; however, they cannot be based upon the death of her son if she honors the purpose and meaning of his life. </p>
<p>To hate anything that caused the death of someone you loved is natural; to turn it into a political spectacle is Artifice .</p>
<p>For any of us to assume we know anything about what Casey Sheehan would have wanted is completely and totally inappropriate unless you knew him on a deep and personal level. </p>
<p>When people die for no good reason, survivors often devote themeselves to the effort to prevent others from dying the same way --think of all the safety crusades, the foundations to seek cures, MADD, for examples of turning grief into action.</p>
<p>To equate someone dying for what they believe as a nobel cause to bring freedom to another country to being killed by a drunken driver is completely inappropriate and insensitive.</p>