Anyone know the acceptance rate for the University of Michigan’s Honors program?
Why does it matter? Only 10% of LSA students are admitted into it. The actual admit rate unknown. But the SAT and ACT ranges are very high (similar to HYPSM).
I read somewhere on the honors web pages that around 1900 apply and 450-500 accepted.
Sounds about right 96blue, but that’s out of students that are actually admitted. The exact figure is not known but like I said, the caliber of students admitted is very high.
Surprisingly, I was admitted to the LSA Honors program even though I was rejected to most of the colleges I applied to (outside of Michigan of course). For reference, my SAT score was 2230.
^^^^That isn’t surprising if you applied to the most elite colleges in America. The vast majority of applicants are rejected.
That is not surprising Dryhten. Admissions into any mega-selective university (including Michigan, even non-honors), is very random. This year, I have seen students get into Cal, Duke, Princeton and Swarthmore get rejected by Michigan.
While admission to Michigan can be “random” as the previous poster suggests, it is hyperbolic to conflate the admission practices at Michigan with schools such as Princeton and Duke that are considerably more difficult to get into than Michigan. Because Michigan is a fine school, it is not necessary to overstate its academic standing unless your purpose is to engage in good-natured teasing of Ohio State.
Ok espenser, whatever you say. Good job!
“…it is hyperbolic to conflate the admission practices at Michigan with schools such as Princeton and Duke that are considerably more difficult to get into than Michigan.”
Of the approximately 28,000 undergraduates at Michigan, 2/3 or roughly 18,600 enter with a composite ACT score above 30 at the 25th percentile and an unweighted GPA above 3.75.
4,050 Princeton students possess a composite ACT above 31 at the 25th percentile and had 88% of its students above a 3.75, or 4,750 students.
So, the lower ACT bound at Princeton is 1 point higher than at Michigan and the upper bound is roughly 2 points higher than at Michigan, but strictly counting students above the 30 bound and the 3.75 levels used by the common data set, Michigan has 460% the number of students with essentially the same credentials as those held by Princeton matriculants.
So, of the 28,000 students at Michigan, Princeton students would be able to crowd out or compete head to head with the bottom roughly 9,600 students at Michigan without undue difficulty. Competing with the upper 18,600 would prove much more difficult in light of the 4.6 to 1 ratio of Michigan matriculants with Princeton level scores and grades.
Now let’s look at Michigan’s upper quartile of roughly 7,000 students, a group which is roughly 130% larger than the entire Princeton undergraduate population. That quartile comes to Michigan with an unweighted GPA of 4.00 (likely much higher when weighted). That quartile comes in with a minimum ACT of 33 versus the 25th percentile Princeton ACT of 31. Thus the entire upper quartile at Michigan is as well qualified or better qualified than each and every Princeton matriculant (from the 0th percentile to the roughly the 100th percentile).
Again, if we are going to carve out the top Michigan quartile, as noted above, many/most/all(?) of the Princeton students would compete well with the 25th to 75th percentile students at Michigan. To that extent, we can say getting into Princeton is harder than getting into Michigan… through the 75th Michigan percentile. But, again, how easy will it be for any Princeton matriculant to compete with the upper quartile at Michigan? The answer is, that on the basis of a blind review of resumes, 130 Michigan matriculants will have the same credentials as 100 Princeton matriculants…a blind review of the scores wouldn’t allow you to statistically distinguish between the two cohorts.
So, in conclusion, it is indeed easy to compete with the bottom end of the Michigan class, but one may indeed compare or even conflate the difficulty in admission to Michigan versus Princeton as one moves up the ladder of achievement (as to GPA and board scores). So difficulty becomes a relativistic concept.
@blue85 - when you say “Of the approximately 28,000 undergraduates at Michigan, 2/3 or roughly 18,600 enter with a composite ACT score above 30 at the 25th percentile and an unweighted GPA above 3.75.”, I’m confused by your using the 2/3 and 25th percentile in the same statement. Can you clarify?
Also, when competing for admission at a top private and much smaller school such as Princeton, other elements come into play. One is student athletes crowding out spots. At Michigan, the spots taken by recruited athletes is much smaller on a percentage basis than a Princeton. Second, Princeton is going to carefully evaluate a student with the stat/credentials that a top 1/2 Michigan student brings, but they may not beat others out who have more esteemed achievements/awards. That doesn’t mean the Michigan student is less capable or won’t have the same or better success.Third, a top private is able to consider many diversity factors that Michigan is no longer, by Michigan law, able to consider.
We are no longer discussing the OP topic, so I will close this thread.