I got a score of 1480, which is pretty low for Brown, I think. My score is extra bad because my math is very, very low (690). But, the only reason I even think of submitting my bland, low score is because its so lopsided my reading score is really good (790). I’m pretty sure it’s rare to have such a high reading score-- but rare in a bad way to have such a low math score! Will submitting this SAT score hurt me??? I’m willing to go test optional but I’m hoping to hear I won’t have too hahahahaha! Thanks!
I mean my math score is low for Brown btw! It’s just fine for non reach schools.
All that you say is true.
I lean toward submitting. The reason is because 81% do.
And take out hooked and it might be higher.
I do think the score is an issue. But not submitting, to me, might be a bigger one.
Btw the 690 is a strong score so congrats whether you end up at Brown or not.
Good luck.
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Thank you! I really appreciate you taking the time to answer! I think I will submit the score since my chances are real low anyway, might as well take the gamble and see what happens. Have a nice day!
I would go TO because it’s sub.
D24 didn’t submit her 1460 and was rejected ED.
Vote TO.
Only 6% of admitted students have math score under 700. 790 is something to be very proud of, but they turn down 1600 every year
I agree, submit it.
Are you a senior applying RD?
We don’t have enough info to make a recommendation on whether you should submit or not. Are you hooked in any way…like underrepresented minority? Low income? What type of HS do you attend, and what is the average test score there? What is your unweighted, core GPA? What math class do you have senior year? Any math AP scores? Intended major? Does your HS have a history of acceptances at schools like Brown?
Lastly, what does your high school counselor recommend re:applying with/without a test score?
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Agreeing entirely with @Mwfan1921 and also reminding you that Brown’s admissions process can be highly idiosyncratic. Most Brown students have not only very strong academic credentials but something else that makes them stand out.
Your application will need to present a broader narrative of who you are and how Brown and its OC will allow you to have impact upon graduation and contribute to Browns community while on campus.
Just a heads up that applicants often describe the OC as an opportunity to “find themselves” academically. I am sure this works for some but it seems much more effective to be able to describe the OC as a flexible means to more deeply pursue a specific area of academic or personal interest.
Your application should be highly tailored to present a holistic picture.
So to your question regarding TO. If you can present a narrative that will emphasize your eventual use of reading skills vs math I would offer the scores. The narrative is what will matter as failure to provide scores will imply that they were sub standard and you may as well get the benefit of the reading score.
That said need to know more to properly advise.
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This is a tough one. I lean towards submitting because your reading score is so high. And your overall score is also very good even though it is slightly below the typical score for Brown. I’d seek guidance from your school counselor if at all possible.
My kid is very similar (710M 780EWR) and he’s submitting it at Brown (and everywhere) for whatever that’s worth. Rationale is that it’s better for them to see a very solid but low for Brown score than to wonder if he’s hiding a low score and, yeah, wanting to show off the high reading score. Obviously we have no idea yet how this strategy will pay off. At most of his reaches he’s in the same position: math below the 25th% and reading at or above the 75th. He’s applying as a potential music/English double major, and it’s very clear from his application that he’s a humanities kid and not STEM-focused…so we’ll see! Good luck to you!
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Just remember that the 25th means 25% are below. On OPs case very below and in hindsight if they have an experienced counselor it’d be a good place to start.
I don’t expect OP to gain admission with a section score so far below the 25th although the total isn’t.
But I’m not a believer that these schools are TO unless you bring another factor with you such as low income, first gen, athlete etc.
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OP, while it is very easy to opine that someone will get rejected from a school with a 4% RD acceptance rate, Brown is somewhat unique and prides itself on that uniqueness. Ask anyone that has first hand experience at the school (my kid went there) and they will be able to relate stories about successful students whose profiles had similar “credential gaps” but great stories (beyond a conventional hook) that gained them admission.
Please don’t get discouraged and seek out your GC for the best and most informed advice on submitting the exam scores.
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Whether to submit or not depends on a number of factors, including - the intended major (math-based or reading-based??). For example, if you were interested in math or engineering, then the SAT math score is not great, but your GPA and math grades and the math courses you have completed may be great, and therefore, you may decide not to submit the score and let your class grades and GPA speak for you. But if you are interested in something else (history, English), etc, then you would definitely submit them. What is your GPA? What classes have you taken? Are any of these AP, AT, or honors? ECs in and outside of school. Which combination of elements (Scores, GPA, etc) may be the most compelling case for your intended major?
Of course it is easy to opine that rejection is most likely - because it is. That is just being realistic. Does that mean this student doesn’t have a chance - absolutely not. There may be something in their application that speaks to Brown and if you don’t apply, you will never know. I certainly don’t believe they are going to be kept out because of a slightly low for Brown SAT score.
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My husband is a former AO and he would tell you to submit.
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Just wondering why you would tell OP with a 1480 to replicate the choice your daughter made if your daughter got rejected? Seems counter intuitive.
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Because they’re both below the top 25%, which is the rule of thumb consultants have been using . She’s applied that to her entire college list, and submitted only to 2 schools where her SAT is between 50-25% cut.
OP I would keep in mind that “rules of thumb” are general and don’t consider individual circumstances. Your question was specific to your scores and Brown, not to mention in a sample of one not submitting didn’t work out.
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You’re absolutely right, these “rules of thumb” definitely wouldn’t apply for recruited athletes, large donors, URM, or other applicants which attract a school’s institutional interest
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