<p>UMich LSA seems to cap the # of credits awarded via AP exams and/or dual-enrollment courses for incoming freshmen to only 60. I’m assuming this is due to their Residency Policy stated in:
<a href=“http://www.lsa.umich.edu/students/academicsrequirements/academicpolicies/residencepolicyandtransfercredit”>http://www.lsa.umich.edu/students/academicsrequirements/academicpolicies/residencepolicyandtransfercredit</a></p>
<p>UMich CoE, however, seems to only require a minimum of 50 – instead of 60 – credits be taken in residence:
<a href=“http://www.engin.umich.edu/college/academics/undergrad/transfer/guidelines”>http://www.engin.umich.edu/college/academics/undergrad/transfer/guidelines</a></p>
<p>The above policy could easily impact those students who come in with a lot of credits via AP exams and dual-enrollment courses. My son’s WA originally showed that he had enough CTP (Credits Toward Program) to be of Senior standing just from AP exams & dual-enrollment alone. However, recently his WA was updated with his total CTP capped at 60 (he’s in LSA), though summing up the CTP from each item would still give the original much larger #.</p>
<p>Since he’s planning to dual-degree in CoE & LSA, I wonder if he would’ve been granted at least 70 credits if he were under CoE instead of LSA during his freshman year. It’s just such a disappointment to lose too many credits when they could be helpful in giving him more flexibility in the next 4 years. </p>
<p>Anyone who’s been down this path before who could share your experience in navigating this issue? Were you able to get the full X credits (where X > 60) as an incoming freshman and just graduate with at least (X+60) credits instead of 120 credits?</p>
<p>First check if the credits are useful or not. UMich charges upperclassmen tuition if you have >55 credits. For engineering, if you have over 35-40 credits, you are likely have extra Intellectual Breadth or Humanities credits than required. You still need to complete the required courses for graduation and those extra ones would not help at all. If he keep all the AP credits, he will graduate with >>120 credits. There is a ~$2100 (~$2500 for oos) difference per semester in tuition for engineering between upper and lower classmen. In other words, he may need to pay extra tuition from the first semester. LSA is different in requirement, but for CoE/LSA double major, he still need to comply with Engineering requirement. But I think he may fulfill many of the LSA credits requirement by AP though.</p>
<p>@billcsho, I’m just wondering where you get the ~$2100 difference per semester in tuition for in-state Engineering between upper & lower division. I only see ~$1700 diff per school-year (not per semester) regardless of LSA/CoE from:
<a href=“http://www.finaid.umich.edu/TopNav/AboutUMFinancialAid/CostofAttendance.aspx”>http://www.finaid.umich.edu/TopNav/AboutUMFinancialAid/CostofAttendance.aspx</a></p>
<p>Anyway, I think at this point, no matter what, we’re stuck with upper-division tuition this Fall, because it doesn’t make sense to remove so many prior credits in order to save tuition. Also, the saving may not matter much in our case since he has very generous merit scholarships for 4 yrs, so he’s not in a hurry to graduate early. And of course, we’re hoping that these credits will allow him the flexibility to explore new possibilities in the next 4 years.</p>
<p>You’re right that in general, one doesn’t need more than 30ish credits to satisfy IB or General Electives. However, he also has a lot of STEM credits from both AP exams & dual-enrollment that could be used to satisfy other STEM requirements/electives. I also understand the need to comply with both LSA & CoE requirements, hence, one is likely to need >>140 credits to graduate with a dual-degree.</p>
<p>Granted, not all his incoming credits are applicable to his intended majors, it would still be nice to have them preserved/available in case he changes his mind & wants to pursue different combo of majors/minors down the road.</p>
<p>Has anyone been able to preserve/use more than 60 “out-of-residence” (i.e., awarded out of UMich Ann Arbor) credits toward their majors/minors before? If so, how did you do that? Would you mind sharing your experience here, or PM me?</p>
<p>Thanks!</p>
<p>See the updated figures here:
<a href=“Tuition & Fees | Office of the Registrar”>http://ro.umich.edu/tuition/tuition-fees.php</a></p>
<p>CoE is always more expensive. The page you link is just for LSA.
If withdrawing the useless credit does not help to lower the tuition, you should keep the credits. Also, if you have financial aid that covers the need anyway, you probably should not worry about the cost either.</p>
<p>Thanks for the link, @billcsho. Very good info to know. It will be interesting to find out later whether the cost for a dual-degree will be the average or the highest of the 2. His WA is showing the lowest of the 2 right now as he’s currently registered under LSA.</p>
<p>I guess his best bet is just to make an appt w/ his advisor to discuss his incoming credits beyond the 60.</p>
<p>Did he go to the orientation? He will meet with the adviser there first.</p>
<p>He had his orientation before his credits were posted on Unofficial Transcript in WA.</p>
<p>Oh, I see. Actually it is the same case for my D as her orientation was long before AP result.</p>