Appealing UCSB

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<p>Just found out I was not admitted to UCSB for Chemical Engineering. UCSB is my first choice, I also applied to UCI and UCR(accepted). On the UCSB’s appeal process web page, they say that an appeal should include something that demonstrates that the student is a stronger candidate then the application indicated.</p>

<p>The reason I think I got rejected is because I got a C in Calculus 2. What happened was I had basically the world’s worst math teacher. He would get visibly upset when asked questions, his notes were unreadable, he was late to class nearly every day, and I could go on and on. Here is the link to his rate my professor page, read the comments!</p>

<p>[Gregory Moore</a> - Orange Coast College - RateMyProfessors.com](<a href=“http://www.ratemyprofessors.com/ShowRatings.jsp?tid=265593]Gregory Moore”>Gregory Moore at Orange Coast College | Rate My Professors)</p>

<p>Most of the students in the class were doing poorly that semester. He was not available to help, never at his office hours. We had 4 exams and a final. When he handed back the fourth exam he wrote our current grade below the exam score and told us that if we were happy with that grade, we could skip the final and that would be the grade we would recieve for the class.</p>

<p>I had a D going into the final. Since this was a major preparation course for me, I immediately signed up for a summer session Calculus 2 course and skipped the final, thinking that it would be better to replace the D grade. When grades came out a few weeks later I was shocked to find that I recieved a C in the class, which could not be replaced. I was already in the Calc 2 class at the other college and was doing well. I emailed the instructor that gave me the C and asked him politely to change my grade back to a D, reminding him what he told us when he handed our 4th exam back. He responded in an extremely condescending email that it didn’t matter what he said, the syllabus said that he could unilaterally raise classes grades. I eventually contacted the dean of the math department at Orange Coast College. He took the teachers side which wasn’t a big surprise to me.</p>

<p>By this time I had 2 weeks left of the summer Calc2 course and I had an 87% average. I was also taking a Physics course. My last option was to file a grievance with the school, but the fact that the Dean took the teachers side in a matter that I thought would be a no brainer led me to believe that the result would be the same.</p>

<p>I have a feeling making an appeal to UCSB about a problem teacher will have the same result as talking to the Dean of Math did. People in Education seem to stick together just like people in Law Enforcement do. But at the same time, I feel this professor was clearly wrong. I also got an A in Calc 3, which shows that I’m strong in math. I could probably get a letter of recommendation from the second Calc2 teacher who is currently my linear/differential teacher. As a whole I think this illustrates that I’m a stronger candidate then my application indicated. How do you think I should proceed?</p>

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<p>man I’m sorry. That is pretty frustrating. I think it’s worth trying to appeal, but just try to be as diplomatic as you can. You don’t want to come off as whining, but I agree that you have a valid grievance. It’s amazing how one bad teacher can **** up your future :/. I wish that there was some system in place to protect students from things like that. I know that it initially come off as whining since the explanation is quite long-winded, but I sympathize with you, friend. All I can say is be as diplomatic as you can. I may also appeal if I get rejected from UCSB. Another word of advice… Instead of magnifying this one incident, try to also include other details of why they should reconsider you. Stress your academic improvement, how SB is your first choice because the program fits you best, and how you would contribute to other students on the campus, etc.</p>

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<p>Ha! I go to OCC, also. Greg Moore is probably the most hated professor at this campus. I heard a story about him having a full lecture hall at the beginning of a semester for either calc 1 or 2 and then all except 10 students dropping by the end of the semester. It will probably come off as whiny to try and explain what a horrific teacher he is, so I would just mention it briefly and focus on mentioning your obvious ability to do math well as is evident by the other grades your received.</p>

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<p>Before you appeal, call UCSB and ask them exactly why you were rejected. I highly doubt it was one C that got you rejected (assuming you had a competitive overall GPA). Were you missing any prereqs? Did you have your GEs/IGETC done? Again, call UCSB so you can pinpoint what the problem was. If you appeal with information about your professor and that wasn’t the reason why UCSB rejected you in the first place, then your appeal will be kind of pointless.</p>

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<p>What is your GPA?</p>

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<p>Why didn’t you withdraw from the class instead of leaving it in his hands?</p>

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<p>No matter how justified you are in your anger at your CC and Math professor, complaining about them in your appeal can not help you and will probably hurt you at the school you want to attend. That does not mean you can not appeal but if you do, you can not make any negative comments about your CC and its faculty without hurting your case.</p>

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<p>Well I spoke with an admission counselor at UCSB and the reason I was not admitted was because of a low major requirement GPA of 3.19. She said the Engineering department wanted major requirment GPA’s of at least 3.4. I explained what happened with the lousy professor who gave me a C and she seemed sympathetic. She calculated my GPA if I would have got an A in that class and I was at 3.41. I asked her if the situation was cause for appeal and she said I could try, but it was really gonna come down to how many spots are open. I’m gonna give it a shot. I think I saw that there is a forum member that helps with appeals for a fee, anyone know who this is and how I can contact them?</p>

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<p>@Surf1975</p>

<p>Good luck!</p>

<p>Ms Sun is the person I think you’re looking for.</p>

<p>Here’s her website with the services offered.
[■■■■■■■■■■■■</a> - Appeal Service](<a href=“http://■■■■■■■■■■■■/appeal.htm]■■■■■■■■■■■■”>http://■■■■■■■■■■■■/appeal.htm)</p>

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<p>Where did you call and what did you say? I was denied as well and am looking at appealing.</p>

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<p>@doingmydream</p>

<p>Did you not look or read the link that I just put up?</p>

<p>It gives pretty clear directions.</p>

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<p>@Discosteve
My apologies, I should have tagged @Surf1975 as my response was directed towards his post regarding the admission counselor.</p>