Application Questions! (UC-UC specifically)

<p>Hi! So I just got really excited opening up the application just now....but its really becoming a fight....I'm a UC-UC transfer and it seems everything is fine tuned for CCC transfers. I am only applying to UCLA. Even so, I'm pretty sure a lot of CCC/other transfers are having similar questions. I'm just very confused. </p>

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<li>I listed myself as a prospective Junior transfer. However, the classes I listed will not add up to more than 90 quarter units. This is because I did not list everything I will take in Winter/Spring 2012 simply because I have no idea yet! At UCI, all Bio Sci majors (that's me) take Biochemistry and Organic Chemistry w/lab in the Winter, and Molecular Bio. + Organic Chemistry (or w/lab if you choose) in the fall. Those are the only classes I'm SURE I will be taking (unless a major disaster occurs and I fail something in the series).</li>
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<p>So for example, for planned courses in Spring Quarter 2012, I only have two classes listed, Ochem. and Bio. OBVIOUSLY, I'm not going to just take 8 units in Spring Quarter (I think I would be subject to probation...) but I simply don't KNOW what else I'm going to take. </p>

<p>Also, I will not have a Bio lab completed at all. UCI got rid of the only undergraduate Bio lab course if I recall correctly. </p>

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<li><p>This sort of relates to the above; are we even supposed to list planned courses for Winter/Spring 2012 if registration has not even occurred and will not for a long time? @_@ I'm new to this...</p></li>
<li><p>Do AP courses count for pre-reqs? I know there must be CCC students who have this problem. I won't have "one year of general chemistry with lab for the major" without AP chem because UCI didn't let me take the first Chem course in the series (Chem goes 1A>1B>1C but I only took 1B-C). </p></li>
<li><p>I've asked this in multiple forms in multiple threads, but I still need a definitive answer...I don't have "one year of Calculus." I have two quarters. However, if I understand correctly, life sci. students at UCLA do 2 quarters of calculus + 1 quarter of statistics(?) I do have a 3 on the AP Stats test and UCLA does accept that as stats credit for its own students....so back to the "do AP course count" question....If I were to do another quarter of calculus at UCI, it would be multivariable and that's just a big no no IMO. </p></li>
<li><p>I have no idea what this question is asking: "Did you complete the UC general education requirements?" Is it asking if I've completed UCLA's GE requirements (in which case, no) or if I've finished UCI's GE's (will be done after Fall, except 2 upper division courses)?</p></li>
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<p>I know this is really sloppy, but I'm going to add more concise questions as a inch my way through the process. Thanks in advance for any help!</p>

<p>I can only answer two. APs will count for Pre reqs if the department says they will. and They are asking if you have finished your GEs for YOUR UC. So say yes.</p>

<p>I too, have no idea what to put for winter or spring</p>

<p>^Thanks! Anyone for a second opinion? My question is kind of like the one in this thread:</p>

<p><a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/1025862-application-help.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/1025862-application-help.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>1 + 2.You just put what you think you will take. You will not be held responsible for taking different classes than what you listed on the application for Spring 2012
3.Yes
4.IMO, having multivariable would be much better. Contact UCLA's Life Sci Division is the best advice I could give :)
5.UCI's GE. It's UC Reciprocity.
Hope this helps ;)</p>

<p>^Thanks! That actually helps tons. But the problem is, I don't KNOW at all what I'm taking LOL, other than the required classes in my major, because UCI hasen't released a list of Spring courses, and even if they did, it would almost be like having to plan my schedule 5 months in advance @_@ </p>

<p>So my REAL question is, does it look bad if I just list the classes I know I will be taking FOR SURE? I don't know every single elective I will come across, what I will be interested, what I won't until the lists actually come out. They will have the sense to see that obviously, I'm not planning to take <10 units per quarter right? Sorry for sounding even more confused but you really did help. </p>

<p>Oh yeah, I'm still not going to do more calc LOL. At the end of the day, transferring would be cool but I don't want to screw over my GPA more than I need to just because I wanted to transfer. It'll just have to be that one pre-req I don't have :( (in addition to Physics and Bio lab of course.......). True, that might mean an instant rejection....but I guess I'm just going to have to suck it up and deal with it. I am willing to suffer one more calculus course IF I actually get in and decide to attend (like if they specifically tell me I have to take it at UCI)</p>

<p>Oh and sorry for the endless questions everyone BUT.......</p>

<p>Would it be more advantageous to apply as a Physiological Sciences/Life Sciences (general) major instead of a Molecular Cell and Developmental Biology major? I'm really interested in MCDB (as in wow, I would like to learn more about this subject) and Physiological sciences. My career objective is to be in the health field (not necessarily meaning med school, but more like a PA or Pharm D.). I know that MCDB is harder and it might be more difficult to get in(?). I don't want to jeopardize my chances by picking a hard major, but at the same time, I don't want to be stuck as just bio for much longer lol (even at UCI)</p>

<p>hi, i already asked this in another thread about the uc application but i think my question is more appropriate here..
im currently filling out the "academic history" section of the uc application thread and i'm not sure what to put for the "end date" of the college i am currently attending. do they want june 2012 (assuming i am accepted) or june 2014 (if i am not accepted and end up staying at my current uc)?
also, when they ask "did you finish your uc's ge requirements?", can i put yes if i will be done with them by the end of winter quarter??</p>

<p>@oceanpartier
i'm pretty sure you will need to list courses for winter and spring, so they can get a sense of the coursework you plan to have. i believe you can update those when we submit fall grades (since by then you will know your winter quarter classes). for spring, if you don't end up taking the classes that you listed, you just need to contact the school and let them know. the reason they have this is b/c some applicants (like me) still need to finish major prereqs by the spring, so by listing them out, i am letting them know that i will finish the requirements by the end of the school year.
for number 4, like sparkyboy mentioned, the best way to know if you cover the requirements is to contact the school's department.</p>

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So my REAL question is, does it look bad if I just list the classes I know I will be taking FOR SURE? I don't know every single elective I will come across, what I will be interested, what I won't until the lists actually come out. They will have the sense to see that obviously, I'm not planning to take <10 units per quarter right? Sorry for sounding even more confused but you really did help.

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I actually did not read the entire thing b/c it sounds confusing lol, but like I said, just give them something you THINK you will take, or preferably, something more than > 12 units. You can update your app once fall grades are out and list the courses that you will DEFINITELY take once January 2012 hits. Does that make sense?</p>

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Oh yeah, I'm still not going to do more calc LOL. At the end of the day, transferring would be cool but I don't want to screw over my GPA more than I need to just because I wanted to transfer. It'll just have to be that one pre-req I don't have (in addition to Physics and Bio lab of course.......). True, that might mean an instant rejection....but I guess I'm just going to have to suck it up and deal with it. I am willing to suffer one more calculus course IF I actually get in and decide to attend (like if they specifically tell me I have to take it at UCI)

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Haha it's your choice, but like I said, you should contact the dean of the LS division at UCLA to confirm this. If he says you need multivariable, you should take it at UCI b/c: 1)You will have more room doing upper division once you get to UCLA, assuming you get in 2)The teacher and the book might be the same, there's no guarantee that UCLA will use the same calculus book as UCI, unless you checked already...</p>

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Would it be more advantageous to apply as a Physiological Sciences/Life Sciences (general) major instead of a Molecular Cell and Developmental Biology major? I'm really interested in MCDB (as in wow, I would like to learn more about this subject) and Physiological sciences. My career objective is to be in the health field (not necessarily meaning med school, but more like a PA or Pharm D.). I know that MCDB is harder and it might be more difficult to get in(?). I don't want to jeopardize my chances by picking a hard major, but at the same time, I don't want to be stuck as just bio for much longer lol (even at UCI)

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Sorry but I'm going to give you another abstract answer lol
You should see the specific requirement for each major, and whether you are interested in it or not. As long as you are fascinated about it and write a heartfell essay, you can get in, regardless of it is impacted or not. </p>

<p>To the other poster,

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im currently filling out the "academic history" section of the uc application thread and i'm not sure what to put for the "end date" of the college i am currently attending.

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You should put a date you think it will end, say your last final exam date. Most colleges have a calendar on their websites. See when is your final exam week for Spring 2012, and put down one of the day in it. Again, don't worry about small little things like this. Unless you put 06/01/2099, they really don't care about it...</p>

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also, when they ask "did you finish your uc's ge requirements?", can i put yes if i will be done with them by the end of winter quarter??

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Yup, as long as you finish it before transferring (NOT counting summer session)</p>

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the reason they have this is b/c some applicants (like me) still need to finish major prereqs by the spring, so by listing them out, i am letting them know that i will finish the requirements by the end of the school year.

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perfect answer for OP's question 1 :)</p>

<p>I'm at UCR right now. </p>

<p>If I have already passed all levels of Chinese in the Chinese placement exam there, where do I report this? It doesn't seem like there's an area for that. Or is this something I should put under additional comments?</p>

<p>Thank you.</p>

<p>^ dunno, sorry, but I guess that means you don't need to take any foreign language requirement anymore once you transferred. Is that requirement part of UC Reciprocity at UCR?</p>

<p>yeah, it is. It's part of the general ed. requirements, i think. Or at least that's what my advisor said. </p>

<p>Thanks anyway.</p>

<p>Okay so in the "Additional Comments" section of my Academic history, I pu something like</p>

<p>"I will be taking more units in Winter and Fall than what I listed in the app. I plan to take atleast 12 units per quarter or else I will be put on academic probation at UC irvine"</p>

<p>Do you think this would be sufficient?</p>

<p>^ You don't even need to go through so much hassle... but that's fine anyway</p>

<p>thanks sparkyboy! :)
i have a few more questions..</p>

<p>1) In the section "Other Academic History - Transferable Courses," they ask:
Prior to transfer, will you complete four transferable college courses in at least two of the following subject areas: arts and humanities, social and behavioral sciences, and physical and biological sciences?
If i have taken some of these classes for P/NP at my uc, will they count as transferable? i'm not sure if they want a letter grade since the first option states "already completed with a grade of C or better" and by earning a P, this means i had a grade of C or better. these classes were taken for ge credit (for uc reciprocity), not for major prereqs.</p>

<p>2) Also in the same section, when they ask for one transferable college course in math, does it matter which math you put down? (multivariable, vector calculus, linear algebra, diff equation?) this is probably a silly question, but i just want to make sure.</p>

<p>3) should i include a course description in the additional comments of academic history in case the course title is not very clear on what is covered? just in case in the admissions officers cannot tell if a certain course covers a certain requirement?</p>

<p>thanks in advance!</p>

<p>please help anyone?</p>

<p>Hi, so a little update here:</p>

<p>I have contacted UCLA's MCDB department via and email, and they basically told me they can't answer my questions regarding admissions. =/ I was told to contact Undergraduate Admissions, which I have now done. Basically, I asked them if my application will even be considered, because I am missing one quarter of Calculus and one bio lab. The answer I got was pretty vague, saying that they consider all applications but cannot predict admissions chances....I was also told to explain the missing lab part in my Additional Comments Section, which I plan to do. Should I also explain how at UCI, the two Calculus courses I have taken are usually equivalent to one year at most other colleges? Or will they be able to understand the reasoning? </p>

<p>I wanted a clear answer because I wanted to decide whether or not I should take Multivariable Calc in Spring Quarter. At this point, I'm dealing with some tough courses and Math 2D does absolutely nothing for my degree; I don't need it to graduate and I don't need it for Professional schools. It would be quite a burden...</p>

<p>Also, I'm wondering if this implies that transfer students have been accepted in the past without fulfilling the entire Math requirement:</p>

<p>"If you took two semesters of calculus, this equals three quarters here (only two of which will show up on your Degree Progress Report at first, but we'll correct this). You don't have to take Math 3C or 32A if you have already had two semesters of calculus! One semester of calculus equals Math 3A or 31A."</p>

<p>I found this on UCLA's MCDB department page, under Transfer student info. </p>

<p>Overall, I'm still a bit confused so that's why I need help. Thanks everyone, I know the chances don't look good at all but I still want to stick it out and see what happens....:)</p>

<p>^Okay! Another update. For some reason, I just recieved another email from UCLA after that one. The second reply is different. It said that UCI's Math 2A-2B is equivalent to UCLA's Calculus requirements for Biology majors! Yay. But it also said I have to do the lab component of Bio to be more competitive...which isn't offered at UCI. They suggest doing the lab at a community college or at UCI Extension. Both options are highly unlikely. There are no labs offered by UCI extention....and the classes are like $1000 each! I don't think I can go to IVC either because it's rather far from UCI without a car....so NEW question! lol. Has anyone ever gotten into UCLA life sciences without lab? -____-</p>

<p>This worries me quite a bit as they specifically mention how this decreases competitiveness. This email is quite strange to me though....it comes almost 3 weeks after I sent out my email and almost 2 weeks after I already got a response....if anyone wants to see and interpret it for me, I'd be most thankful (I'll have to PM it). It's riddled with some pretty bizzarre grammar issues though....</p>

<p>what about the additional comments section? should I put another essay explaining myself or my family situation discussing my uncle who went to jail, my family supporting my grandma and aunt, and my grandma's death?</p>