<p>Papa Chicken,</p>
<p>The W&M CDS shows 11,636 applications last year. With 12,053 applicants this year, an increase of 3.6% would be correct.</p>
<p>thanks for figuring that one out DadofB&G.</p>
<p>By similar method, Clemson apps + 7.1%</p>
<p>15,540 apps this year: [upstatetoday.com</a> - Upstate South Carolina’s leading news and information Web site | The Daily Journal, Daily Messenger, Upstate Lake Living, Golden Corner Shopper](<a href=“http://www.upstatetoday.com/news/2009/feb/06/clemson-officials-talk-issues-over-breakfast/]upstatetoday.com”>http://www.upstatetoday.com/news/2009/feb/06/clemson-officials-talk-issues-over-breakfast/)
14,504 last year: [Common</a> Data Set - 2008](<a href=“http://www.clemson.edu/oirweb1/fb/factBook/CommonDataSet2008.html]Common”>http://www.clemson.edu/oirweb1/fb/factBook/CommonDataSet2008.html)</p>
<p>I believe Vassar applications are up 2.7%. I found it somewhere on the web yesterday and now I can’t find the article. It wasn’t actually about Vassar but was about another schools and the asist dean of admissions to vassar (?) was quoted. And, I think this was overall but I’m not sure. Anyway, it’s good news for Vassar considering most of the other LAC are down.</p>
<p>Cooper Union</p>
<p>this article states that CU ED apps were up a whopping 70%, and they expect 3300 apps this season, but the increase of total apps over last year is not quantified.
<a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/09/education/09cooper.html?hp[/url]”>http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/09/education/09cooper.html?hp</a></p>
<p>Based up the report that apps increased 20% overall last year from the prior year (07-08 freshman year)[ [The</a> Cooper Union Awards $33 Million in Full-Tuition Scholarships for 2008-2009 Academic Year | Business Wire | Find Articles at BNET](<a href=“http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2008_May_14/ai_n25412444]The”>http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0EIN/is_2008_May_14/ai_n25412444) ] and the 07-08 total apps numbers was 2551 [source: USNews database, which pulls from the 07-08 CDS], I calculate that the rough increase for this year’s 3300 total apps is on the order of:
~+8%</p>
<p>In other news, Colgate is rumored to be down, but the numbers are not yet reported.</p>
<p>I think the hurt is going to be much greater at lower tier private schools, for example, over this past weekend my D got two personal calls from schools she was researching, but did not apply to, well after their original deadline, asking if she still wanted to apply and that they would still take an application…</p>
<p>From Macalester Student newspaper:</p>
<p>About 500 fewer students applied to Macalester College this year, a 10 percent decrease from 2008, according to Dean of Admissions and Financial Aid Lorne Robinson.</p>
<p>This marks only the second time in 10 years that the number of applicants has decreased, he said in an email statement.</p>
<p>Director of Admissions Robert Colee expected the drop. “That’s not surprising in this economic environment,” said Colee. “We’re hearing through the grapevine that a lot of peer colleges [application pools] have decreased.”</p>
<p>Analysis of the potential applicants that passed on Macalester this year will be done this summer. Colee emphasized the difficulties of predicting how big an impact the economy actually had on applications, but speculated that, “some families may decide that private education might be out of their reach [this year].” </p>
<p>The percent of admitted students who attend Macalester in the fall could also decrease due to families looking for cheaper education, he added. As a result, the acceptance rate would increase. </p>
<p>It is not clear yet what new steps, if any, will be taken in response to the drop in applications. Robinson said that Macalester will continue to meet the full demonstrated financial aid needs of students admitted this year.</p>
<p>Agree with Papa, rachacha, but I also think the real disaster will come for the lower tier private schools when they dont get deposits.</p>
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<p>I was really surprised when my daughter got an email from Swarthmore this past Friday saying that she could still apply. They had everything but her common app as she had scores, transcript and recommendations sent before being accepted elsewhere ED. She’s gotten numerous calls from lower ranked schools but I was surprised to see Swarthmore not enforcing their application deadline.</p>
<p>MN schools
[Colleges</a> wonder if Class of 2013 will show up](<a href=“http://www.startribune.com/local/39342132.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUsr]Colleges”>http://www.startribune.com/local/39342132.html?elr=KArksLckD8EQDUoaEyqyP4O:DW3ckUiD3aPc:_Yyc:aULPQL7PQLanchO7DiUsr)</p>
<p>Carleton (4%)
Macalester (9.7%)
St Olaf (1.5%)</p>
<p>more reported in the article</p>
<p>It would appear that Vanderbilt has increased its application volume by 13.57%. Way to go everyone, how awfully exciting!</p>
<p>Thanks, PapaC, and other who have added data or links. It’s interesting to see what’s happening. Here’s the closing to the Minn article, which seems very apropos.</p>
<p>“Given all the growth, a little dip in applications isn’t necessarily a big deal,” said John Manning, communications director for the Minnesota Private College Council. “What’s driving the dip, that could be a very big deal.”</p>
<p>Amherst (~1.2%)
Bowdoin (1.7%)
Bucknell (~5%)
Brandeis (10.8%)
Brown ~+21% (still approx)
Carleton (4%)
Carnegie Mellon up maybe
Chicago ~+7%
Clemson +7.1%
Colby (7%)
Colgate down
Columbia ??
Conn Col up slightly
Cooper Union ~+8%
Cornell +3%
Dartmouth +8.9%
Duke +17%
George Wash (2.3%)
Gettysburg ~(15%) (maybe just RD)
Hamilton ~(16%)
Harvard ~+5.6%
Kenyon (10%)
Lehigh (13%)
Macalester (9.7%)
Marquette +15%
Middlebury ~(12%)
MIT +17%
Northwestern ~+2% (count incomplete, 3-4% expected)
Notre Dame up slightly
NYU +0.3%
Penn State ~+4 so far
Princeton +2.3%
Rice +12%
RPI ~up, but not quantified yet
St Olaf (1.5%)
Stanford +20%
Swarthmore ??
Texas A&M +6.7%
Tufts ~(3 to 4%)
Tulane ~+17% at least, more growth to count
UC Berkeley +0.4%
UC Davis +4.4%
UC Irvine +4.0%
UCLA +0.5%
UCSB (5.0%)
UCSD (0.7%)
USC down slightly
UConn ~+9%
U Illinois ~+12%
UNC +17%
U Oregon ~+20% so far
U Penn ??
UVa +16%
Vanderbilt +13.6%
Vassar +2.7%
Wellesley +3.6%
Wesleyan +21.6%
William & Mary +3.6%
Williams ??
Yale +13.6%</p>
<p>…my pleasure, Tuppence!</p>
<p>My daughter got numerous e-mails from Emory, encouraging her to apply and extending the application deadline to Feb. 1.</p>
<p>So it sounds likely apps were down in their case.</p>
<p>^^ Hi fendrock!
That may not necessarily be true. Sometimes schools encourage applicants or extend deadlines to encourage the applicant to complete a partially completed application regardless of the # of applications they receive</p>
<p>What has me slightly umm… don’t know what the word would be, but with all these applications down, it would seem that as mac has suggested, acceptances will be up. Now I wonder what that will say about my kid or any kid who still gets rejected (cuz you know some are definitely going to be).</p>
<p>U Wisc Madison down 3.2%</p>
<p>This is a bit counter to the trend of increasing apps to state schools.
[WISCONSIN</a> STATE JOURNAL](<a href=“http://www.madison.com/wsj/topstories/437820]WISCONSIN”>http://www.madison.com/wsj/topstories/437820)</p>
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<p>Modadunn-- I agree with your interpretation of what the Mac person alluded to. For the subject group of LACs, there are fewer apps in total…so, if the school decides to accept the same number as in prior times, the accept rate will go up slightly giving our kids a slightly increased chance. On top of that, as implied by Mac, their projected yield might decrease, meaning they are going to in fact accept more kids than prior times…giving our kids another marginal edge. I do think these beneficial effects for our kids are still very marginal in this year of demographic peak, so a kid getting rejected even under this slightly new hypothesized paradigm is no different than under the old pre-economic crash…its gonna happen & they should expect that. I’d bet some schools had the yield thing figured out, as I believe I’ve notcied some schools upping their percentage of ED admits this year, like JHU.</p>
<p>University of Minnesota reportedly up 15%, to a record 32,000+ applications.</p>
<p>[Economy</a> Affects Public, Private College Applications](<a href=“FOX 9 Minneapolis-St. Paul”>FOX 9 Minneapolis-St. Paul)</p>
<p>This “Trinity Tripod” article loosely implies, but does not emphatically state, that Trinity College apps are down. [Which would make sense, given the reported apps at comparable LACs.]</p>
<p>[Colleges</a> Adjust Budgets in Economic Distress - News](<a href=“http://media.www.trinitytripod.com/media/storage/paper520/news/2009/02/10/News/Colleges.Adjust.Budgets.In.Economic.Distress-3620830.shtml]Colleges”>http://media.www.trinitytripod.com/media/storage/paper520/news/2009/02/10/News/Colleges.Adjust.Budgets.In.Economic.Distress-3620830.shtml)</p>
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<p>As the article is from a Trinity source, if they categorize themselves as a typical NESCAC school, then the implication is that their apps are down.</p>
<p>I’m surprised to see the difference between UW-Madison and the U of M. Does this make sense to anyone? They’re both great flagships in the upper midwest, so I would think that one would track the other.</p>
<p>^ One big factor might be that Minnesota just cut OOS tuition to $14,600/year, or $4,000/yr above the in-state rate. That makes it very attractive and affordable for a lot of OOS students and internationals. My guess is a lot of the growth in applications is coming from these two categories. This should allow Minnesota to be more selective, boosting its perceived prestige value.</p>
<p>Minnesota has also been making major investments in upgrading undergraduate education, an area where it’s traditionally lagged Wisconsin. The two states have a tuition reciprocity agreement allowing students from either state to pay in-state tuition at the other state’s public colleges and universities (not just the flagship). Because the University of Wisconsin’s been perceived as the better school, the result has been a net export of several thousand Minnesotans to Wisconsin. As Minnesota becomes more selective and its perceived prestige improves (it jumped 11 places in the US News rankings from 2008 to 2009), it could also be the case that more Minnesotans are electing to stay home, and possibly a few more Wisconsinites are electing to go to Minnesota. Either way, selectivity is something that tends to build on itself.</p>