Got it. At this point it is what it is. If anything, I would have recommended sending a doctor note instead of the explaination/excuse with no independent verification.
As I said upthread, with a holistic review I don’t expect the OP would be rejected solely due to gym grades.
Why would you do this? ugh. Why bring attention to something they already know?
Not a good idea.
Stop now - and wait for your decisions to come in. That was not a good move.
Wait, are these gym grades from a school in another country? If so, you really needed to mention that here because the asthma story as you describe it (gym teachers for 4 years don’t care that you’re struggling to breathe, etc.) doesn’t sound believable for a U.S. school. I don’t know how other countries handle gym grades for students with medical conditions.
I am really worried about not getting accepted, and I feel that I need to explain this or else I am in fear of getting rejected. Also,someone here told me that I should explain why then just leave it as it is.
I do have asthma, that is no doubt. However, I don’t exactly know how to give a medical note to them since this is my first time applying. I feel so hopeless right now. Also, the application materials time is kind of over since they told me my application is about to be reviewed. So, pausing it will just decrease my chances since it will take longer for them.
This is excuse making. You could have noted it in the additional info section, if you had documentation.
As it is, if you get into a school, you’ll never know why. And if you get rejected, you’ll never know why.
The admit rate is 38% for international, much lower than the overall rate.
Have you done a chance me? Do you require aid?
I see threads on did your SAT go through, you need SRAR help. There seems to be some issues all around in your apps.
If you ask a question like this, wait for the response. You sending an email may hurt. It certainly won’t help.
Slow down.
But the reality is, in or out, you wont’ know why the decision was made, whether gym factored in or otherwise.
Applying to college is stressful. Don’t worry about the gym grades. There’s nothing you can do. I would not sending any more communications trying to explain those grades to your schools.
I know the waiting for decisions is difficult. Do you have any affordable college options yet whether in the US, your home country, or elsewhere?
Good luck and try to take your mind off of college admissions as much as you can. You should enjoy senior year as much as you can.
I don’t doubt you have asthma. I also don’t doubt that asthma would make it challenging for you to fully participate in gym class. The problem is your story. In most U.S. high schools, gym teachers (any gym teachers anywhere in the U.S.) would not respond to a student repeatedly struggling to breathe by saying, welp, you get a low grade. That just wouldn’t happen in the U.S. Period. Especially for 4 years in a row. Instead, your gym teacher would have referred you to the school nurse who would have worked with your parents to get you properly diagnosed and treated. The treatment either would have been sufficient to allow you to participate in gym class, or if not, you would have been medically excused. Just getting a bad grade due to a medical condition isn’t a thing. So your story comes off as unbelievable. Which is why I asked if perhaps you attended high school outside of the U.S. where I guess it’s possible such a scenario could have occurred. Was your high school outside the U.S.?
In any case, I think you’ll be just fine with admissions. Gym class is not a core class and it sounds like you have a strong application otherwise. You’re going to do great!
One of the things this conversation is highlighting is in US-style holistic review, everything is contextual, and it is very hard to give meaningful advice without the entire relevant context.
So I think if you want to give us the entire context, remembering this is anonymous, and answering any follow up questions, once we know we have the full relevant picture, we can see if there is anything we would actually recommend doing.
Otherwise, it is probably best just to do nothing more at this point.
Thank you and I did attend school in the US, but I think I should just delete the emails where I wanted them to add that pdf. My other grades are really strong and someone told me that they will recalculate my GPA. Is this true because Fordham is a highly selective school?
Some schools recalculate, others don’t. Few colleges give their exact formula. Honestly at this point your application is complete so stop obsessing over something that can’t be changed.
If you are interested in seeing an example of how a selective holistic review college might review and process a transcript, here is an interesting video from Holy Cross (the whole thing is interesting but the transcript part is toward the beginning):
This is now close to five years old, and so it may look different in detail now depending on what current technologies they are using. But I think the basic point remains the same: how they process transcripts in context is more complex and nuanced than just “recalculating” a GPA.
Which really should be comforting in the end. Of course the lack of certainty about what they will do with your transcript in any given admissions office can produce some baseline anxiety. But it isn’t like there is some magic formula you have to figure out to manipulate to your advantage. Which means you don’t have to worry about not knowing that magic formula, because it doesn’t exist.
In the video its showing that they are looking at 12th grade grades. Are 12th grade grades from the first semester, which end in January, considered?
Yes
Okay then, I was asking because it shows all my AP class credits there.
You would have listed your 12th grade classes on your application and most every college asks for mid-year grades. Not sure about Fordham specifically but you can check with your guidance counselor that your mid-year transcript was sent.
Do they require the midyear grades for admission or just to see if you are passing your courses?
For more on OP, see their Rutgers thread.
@Boxy26WorldVision You have a unique way of avoiding requests for info.
You literally asked if you could get into Rutgers - without providing anything.
Eventually we learned you have a 1380 SAT and are in the top 10% of your class and have the required classes - but we know nothing about your GPA or anything else.
So whether it’s Fordham, Rutgers or anywhere else you applied - no one can really give you an answer - because so little is known about you.
But at this point, a chance doesn’t matter because you’ll know soon enough.
As for does a school require mid-year grades, check the admission portal. You will have an account with a check list - and it will tell you what you still own them. As a college student, you will be independent and need to run your life. That same responsibility goes with ensuring you track your applicant status to ensure a school has all it needs. That’s why those portals are there - for you to know. If you are still unsure, you can ask that simple question to your Fordham Admissions rep (do you require my mid-year grades) or simply have them sent. If they don’t require them, they’ll ignore them.
But you get very nervous - like sending your SAT twice and wondering if it went through when you had a confirmation.
Sit back and relax. You’ve done the hard work. Now it’s up to the schools.
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In the first message in the thread, i said that I applied to Fordham and I am concerned about Fordham. I am concerned about Rutgers too but that school’s far away. Also my gpa currently is a 3.7 unweighted.
Also if you like to know my extracirrculars, then I can list some of them here.