<p>1620, I do suspect something Trollish in the neighborhood! (And if you’re not here to yank our chains, you might consider keeping a very, very low profile. Offspring bragging about WH connections is the sort of thing that gets WH advisors, well, not fired, but “resigning to spend more time with my family”.</p>
<p>My senior has been raving about this site for months, how wonderful these forums can be, espc. for a first born or only and his virgin parents! My son is looking at Vassar, Claremont McKenna, USCal, NYU, and American. SATS are above twenty one hundred, and AP workload is heavy. (Six APs senior year) 5’s last year in his three APs (one was self study) High honor roll junior year, but As and Bs in ninth and tenth grade all honors. Also varsity basketball junior and senior years, (lots of playing time, starting this year), and varsity tennis (second singles) all four years. He goes to a large suburban school on the east coast. Academic ranking is only top fifteen percent. Hes very smart, very hard working. Feedback on these colleges would be appreciated. Hes thinking ED on Claremont, but Im thinking options??? Financial packages?? California…omg!!! Hes interested espc in the poly sci, economics, and social sciences. References will be strong. Are we in the right ball park? Thanks, mathelamom</p>
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<p>It would not be surprising if large numbers of university students attended schools which built their admission classes simply on GPA and SAT scores. Consider the moderately or less selective state universities. For example, California State Universities calculate an eligibility index from GPA and SAT or ACT scores. The unimpacted campuses accept anyone with an eligibility index over a certain threshold. Impacted campuses and majors may be more selective than that; some, like San Jose State, just use higher eligibility index numbers.</p>
<p>The super-selective schools where most applicants have “maximum” academic credentials so that admissions committees look at essays, recommendations, extracurriculars, etc. enroll a small minority of university students.</p>
<p>…I agree, the majority of colleges base admissions on “stats” alone. This site attracts people who disproportionately discuss the top 50 colleges in the country, where admission can be difficult to predict because the adcom’s are able to take a “holistic” view of the applicants. . This leaves approximately 2,400 other 4 year colleges. One’s ability to predict admission to these schools is easily attained by just looking at their GPA & test scores.</p>
<p>Well, it’s a bit not-so-simple as that.
I agree many third (or lower) tier schools would be thrilled to get an app from a 2300 kid. And, I feel many third tier schools have good programs- that’s where so many of the wealth of PhDs (or PhD candidates) wind up, after all.</p>
<p>But, finding the right “fit” for your 2300 kid’s interests is not always as simple as getting in. Sure, plenty of state schools have broad, intersting programs, good facilities in sciences and etc- and enroll plenty of high-performing kids. Not true at all the smaller schools (“the other 2400 colleges”) that routinely accept 1500/2400 and B-/C+. And, while it’s nice to be a big fish in a lttle pond, many kids perform best as a medium fish in a more challenging pond.</p>
<p>^ Then the student should have performed to his/her capabilities. There are ramifications when you decide to slide through school. But as I mentioned earlier in the thread, the OP is not in such a position.</p>
<p>mathelamom, you should probably start your own post from the main page to get some feedback.</p>
<p>A significant portion of the students at Oxford College of Emory University have high SAT scores and low high-school GPAs.</p>
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<p>That’s almost certainly true for the top 20 most selective colleges in today’s ultra-competitive environment. There are just too many applicants with top scores, top GPAs, and multiple leadership roles in ECs and community service work.</p>
<p>But the schools with acceptance rates between 25-35% can still be very forgiving about a lone “shortcoming” if the rest of the application shows promise.</p>
<p>Unless your child has some sort of “hook” (athlete, under-respresented minority, first generation college, etc), the top “U.S. News” schools down to about #20 to 25 on each of the University and Liberal Arts College lists would be out of the picture. Boys simply mature slower and are at a disadvantage in an admissions process at many places which looks for the “complete package.” There are still lots a=of greaat schools beyond those 40 to 50 though.</p>
<p>Just a few points that I haven’t read yet.
Colleges look at class rank (if the high school doesn’t have class rank, they will look at what quartile the student falls into). This adjust for a school with tough grading. Colleges want to know how you have done compared to your peers.</p>
<p>Four years of high school are much more meaningful than 4 hours of a standardize test.</p>
<p>Thee ACT test is more reflective of the classes they have taken in high school and test more subjects - science being the biggest difference. The SAT is a reasoning test.</p>
<p>Another hint: a kid with less than perfect grades and a really high SAT may benefit more from applying ED. Colleges like to be able to lock in those high SAT scores to boost their US News rankings. </p>
<p>I’m not recommending ED if you need to negotiate fin aid or if your kid’s still really undecided when the ED deadline arrives, but a high score/ good but not great gpa kid benefits more from applying ED than most applicants do.</p>
<p>Would one be eligible for a full scholarship/fee waiver with a 2340 SAT score & less than 2.0 GPA ???</p>