<p>You seem amazingly zen given all your facts</p>
<p>Alh…lol…</p>
<p>“I don’t disagree with that Dstark. It is why I continue to want to tarrif the products of those who offshore manufacturing jobs.”</p>
<p>-So, you want foreigners to tariff the products that are made in the USA? How about foreign cars that made in the USA? To be consistent, apparently you want to taroiff these also. It would kill tens if not hundreds of thousands of American jobs. Do you know that some of largest foreign car manufacturer’s have built manufacturing facilities here in the USA? Do you know about very large international companies who have many manufacturing and office facilities here in the USA? So, you want to kill these jobs, correct? It does not sound right to me at all. I hope your wish will never come true, because it means personally to me that I will lose my job.</p>
<p>MiamiDAP, I am curious as to your country of origin, if you don’t mind my asking? Thanks.</p>
<p>Miami dap</p>
<p>I am very specific in the statement of goods manufactured offshore.</p>
<p>If an international corporation wants to manufacture their goods in the US, then I am all for them remaining untarrifed. If a US international corporation wants to manufacture goods offshore and bring them back into the US, then I would like those goods to be tarrifed.</p>
<p>There is no credible evidence that the US benefits from supposed free trade agreements with countries who protect their own economies. Yes, there is a trade-off, but NET, the US workers and economy will benefit Long term from looking out for the interest of our own workers.</p>
<p>You cannot play a game by free trade rules when those rules are not actually being followed by everyone. the only winners, in the US, at least, are the executives in the international corporations. As we can see, this is not an effective model for job growth, even if it is an effective model for profit growth. Do we only care about profit? At the expense of our laborers? this is where we jump the tracks.</p>
<p>There is no way for us to start having higher tarrifs and demand that others will not. yes, the rules are not followed. But the fact is the minute we raise tarrifs, they will be raised by another side, no matter what they are now. Mnay thousands of jobs here in the USA will be gone…</p>
<p>dstark,
If anyone has the nerve to tell me I didn’t “work hard” taking care of my father, for which I may or may not be compensated with a meager inheritance, I will be inclined to punch them in the face.</p>
<p>I am sorry to read about what you went through with your dad…</p>
<p>I also really fail to follow the logic that people who have prospered did so because of their great privilege in living in the US and thus must pay confiscatory taxes to society. What about turning this argument on the less successful, ie, hey! you’re failing despite being born here! You have no excuses, now get to work!</p>
<p>I’m not advocating this line but if that’s the logic you want to employ then it applies to everyone, not just perceived “lucky.”</p>
<p>Finally, I am ardently opposed to estate taxes. It is preposterous in my view for the government to take a slice of the wealth that parents want to bequeath to their heirs.</p>
<p>I don’t care if some rich kids inherited their money instead of earning it. I don’t spend my time worrying about that and I think people who do are wasting their time and ours by making a big deal out of it.</p>
<p>In general, I suspect that people like the Occupiers tend to covet what others have, resent the success of others and spend their time and energies railing against a world that has rewarded others and not them. If they would just engage their brain, think critically about their decisions, exercise some discipline in their living habits and take advantage of opportunities rather than fretting endlessly over social injustice – they’d probably end up a lot better off than if they actually succeed in confiscating the wealth of others.</p>
<p>OK… sewhappy…so it is ok for the wealthiest not to pay a tax…and it is ok for people who didn’t work for the money to not pay a tax…as long as the amount of the wealth is large enough …but the poor, the sick, the elderly…better pay an income tax?</p>
<p>Ok…I hear you…</p>
<p>dstark,</p>
<p>When did I ever say that the rich should not pay a tax???</p>
<p>Of course, they should pay taxes. And I’m actually not sold on flat tax. A reasonable progressive tax with just a few buckets is fine. I am against confiscatory taxes, however. And I don’t give a dang about rich people leaving money to their kids.</p>
<p>Call me weird, but I don’t lose sleep over the notion that some rich kids might stay rich without working really, really hard to earn their riches. I don’t like it when people like you feel compelled to decide what is fair for each of us to keep or give away. I’m not likely to leave a ton of money to my kids. I don’t hate the people who are and want to take their money from them when they die and keep it away from their children.</p>
<p>In all honesty, such an inclination seems truly foul to me. Who are you to make that call? Can you not understand that the reason America has been a great country is because of our freedom, not because of our entitlements? There is a very persuasive argument to be made that is the entitlement mindset that is derailing us.</p>
<p>I just have less and less tolerance for those who think they have the right and the knowhow to make everything “fair”.</p>
<p>If you advocate for no estate taxes…then you realize that their are billions of dollars of inheritance that have never been taxed once?</p>
<p>While workers pay…can be taxed multiple times…</p>
<p>So by advocating for no inheritance taxes…and for everybody to pay an income tax…you are stating what I wrote in the prior post…</p>
<p>dstark,</p>
<p>You seem to be on here a great deal. Maybe if you’re that worried about the poor you should go get a job and give your income to the poor.</p>
<p>And, yes, I have no interest whatsoever in taking rich peoples money away from their kids when they die. I think it’s base and foul to do that.</p>
<p>If I was the boss of the government, this is what I would do:</p>
<p>Taxes would be progressive with everyone paying atleast 1% of income for taxes and the top paying 33%. All types of income taxed the same. There is no excuse not to pay something for the benefit of being a US citizen or legal alein. No loopholes at all. </p>
<p>Unearned income would be subject to social security tax. </p>
<p>Tariffs on all imports no matter the country of origin. Stop the offshore madness. Most other countries are not playing fair. </p>
<p>Go back Glass-Steagall Act or something like it. </p>
<p>Give a tax break to any company that employees an unemployeed worker for more than two years. The company would not have to pay fica and the unemployment tax. With unemployment benefits we are not even getting the employee amount. </p>
<p>Just to name a few.</p>
<p>Right, sewhappy…so I was correct…</p>
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<p>Don’t worry, dstark, as soon as those dollars are actually spent, they will be taxed.</p>
<p>I’m not worried…</p>
<p>Just find it interresting that some people are adamant that everybody should pay an income tax…but they don’t have a problem with inheritance not taxed…</p>
<p>maybe …if we called an inheritance…let’s see… income… ;)</p>
<p>momof3greatgirls…I like your proposals better than some of the others out there…</p>
<p>What about gifts, dstark? I’m sure there are billions of dollars in gifts given every year that are not taxed.</p>
<p>We can tax gifts…</p>
<p>I have no problem with some tax free gifts…I have no problem with some inheritance tax free…</p>
<p>I have no problem with income below some levels not being taxed…</p>
<p>But to complain about some poor people not paying an income tax…while advocating for no estate tax…which give families billions tax free…</p>
<p>:)</p>