Are you ready for some football?

^^Wow!!! :slight_smile:

There are lots of rookies that start every year. It’s hard to believe they can all be coached up from Pop Warner to NFL caliber in a few OTAs and 6 weeks of training camp.

The draft is skimming the cream of 240 players or so from thousands, maybe 10’s of thousands of players. Many of them have the skills already, they just need to learn the system. If it didn’t work, teams would pass on the early picks in order to save the salary money, particularly in the days before the current contract where the rookie contracts are slotted.

Is it massively over-hyped, like everything else NFL these days? Sure, but it’s not irrelevant either.

Hey! I agree with you too!

^ See what a couple of drinks on a Friday will do? :wink: :smiley:

And the SNL 40 rerun

Suddenly everyone seems funnier

The actual internal pressure of a football is the observed psi PLUS 14.7 psi. External pressure is 14.7 psi and if the internal pressure was only 13 psi, the ball would cave in! The measured pressure, 13 psi for example, is actually 13 psi above external atmospheric pressure.

Also, pressure is directly proportional to the ABSOLUTE temperature(Kelvin in metric, Rankine in English). So a decrease from 70 degrees F to 40 degrees F, in absolute terms is a much smaller decrease percentage-wise (from 529 Rankine to 499 Rankine).

(This has been a CC nerd moment.)

@saintfanā€Œ Mardi Gras kitty?

yep

After reading all this agreement from last night’s posts, I now believe there is hope for world peace.

There also seems to be a love-fest going on between Pete Carroll and Bill Belichick at the combine:

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4778356/pete-carroll-appreciates-bill-belichicks-support-after-super-bowl

The 1mm came from an expert I heard on the radio. Posting, though, because lots of people confuse the pressure stuff, including Bill Nye and some academics: they forget the balls aren’t filled in a vacuum but in our atmosphere. That people rushed to make statements without thinking that through is, to me, one of the funnier bits. I don’t expect much, well anything, from sports guys but I do expect science people to exercise their brains a bit before speaking.

Rolando McClain Cowboys LB 4 games, substance abuse

Rats:

http://now.nfl.com/sharenow/58430d7b-dbc4-4e23-997d-b3b6cab2fa11

These guys should be more concerned with the Colts defense [sic].

And the Colts had a different atmosphere. Now I understand.

When were the Colts’ balls tested? What was the PSI on the Colts’ balls? What were the PSI measurements on the Pats balls before Kensil tampered with them at halftime?

You can’t suggest that the two teams’ balls behaved differently unless you have before and after PSI measurements recorded for the dozen balls from each team. Without that information, there is nothing to talk about. Given the importance the NFL has suddenly placed on ball inflation and given that this was a sting operation hatched the week prior to the game (see rats above), I’m sure the NFL carefully recorded all that data. Right? I mean, they have finally honed game ball procedures (well except for the fact that one employee was stealing game balls and another was tampering with inflation pressures at halftime).

I recognize that schadenfreude is a base emotion, but I will admit that I’m enjoying watching long time Pats-hater Ryan Grigson (Colts, Eagles, Rams) squirm and turn on long time Pats-hater Mike Kensil (Jets, Jets, Jets!). It’s pretty clear at this point that Grigson and Kensil conspired to try to set up the Pats and Belichick, and failed miserably.

I’d like to believe that the allegation that the Colts were responsible for deflating the football that Jackson intercepted (the only one that was found to be significantly deflated) is, in Pagano’s words, ludicrous. But given that Jackson has said the ball did not feel deflated when he intercepted it, and that it was then in the Colts’ possession for 20 minutes before Grigson handed it over to Kensil, you have to at least consider it as a real possibility.

Hopefully Ted Wells is thoroughly investigating this. At this point, I’m actually looking forward to the Wells report, as it’s clear they have absolutely nothing on the Patriots, but they may well have something on the Colts, Grigson and Kensil. If only they could sweep Harbaugh and the Ravens into the conspiracy, we’d have the trifecta! I know it’s too much to hope that an NFL-commissioned investigation is ever going to be critical of the NFL, but we’ll see. It would be sweet.

The thing I’ve learned watching football science videos is that we are talking so little air volume in a football that just testing it lowers the PSI by significant amounts (.25 psi). So, if those two nimrods Grigson and Kensil stood on the Colts sidelines slapping each other on the back and screaming ā€œwe got 'em this timeā€ while ā€œtestingā€ the Pats ball three or four times, they lowered the inflation by 1 PSI or so, In effect, tampering with it. Add their stupidity to the 1.5 PSI average drop that Belichick found when testing multiple balls balls inflated to 12.5 psi and prepared exactly as the Pats prepared them and taking them outside in similar temperature conditions and you’ve got – the 3 Stooges Sting Operation.

And Grigson is no mental giant. He’s the idiot who traded a 1st round draft pick for Trent Richardson. Nyuck, Nyuck, Nyuck.

BTW, knowing that the reporter who first floated the theory of the Colts tampering with the balls has been given ā€œon backgroundā€ information from Belichick in this case, I suspect that the Pats have video of Grigson and Kensil deflating the Pats ball on the sideline. I don’t think the Patriots have fired their entire arsenal of drone strikes yet.

The only possible explanation for Grigson opening his mouth about crying to the League before the AFC Championship game is that he is trying to get out in front of something in the Wells report. Especially since a league spokesman (either Blandino or Vincent) had previously lied about it

And Ravens coach Harbaugh used some interesting weasel words in his combine presser, saying he had nothing to do with ball investigation ā€œper seā€. Huh? What does he mean by ā€œper seā€? He did reveal that people in the Ravens organization had been interviewed. Say what? Ravens have been interviewed, but not Belichick or Brady?.

Both teams’ footballs were measured at halftime. The Colts’ footballs were legal. The Pats’ footballs were not. Oh, except for that one mysterious properly-inflated football, which was somehow immune to the special Pats climate in force during the first half.

And yet somehow that magical Patriot climate had no effect on ball pressure in the second half:

http://mmqb.si.com/2015/01/23/deflategate-patriots-super-bowl-xlix/

So weird.