Maybe you’re right though, maybe some people are just better at moving on . . .
Sigh! Saintfan, do you really assume I cannot read or missed the second part of your quote? I addressed what Tony Romo said in my reply. As far as LaDouceur, we have two quotes and you simply chose to favor the one you posted and ignore the one that does not support your theory, namely "“We got a ball change right before the snap,” recalls Ladouceur. “The ball used earlier in the game wasn’t the same as the one we used at the end of the game. The newer ball had wax on it. It’s unfortunate that it happened.”
So here is your full quote:
Fwiw, one could say that snapping a ball under control is different from catching it in flight. Only need to look at receivers having a difficult time to catch cold balls while many QBs have no problems throwing rocks.
Either way, let me repeat that the salient fact was the change of rule after the actions of the Seattle ballboys. Simple enough?
Yes - yet again you are correct in all things and I am a dumbshit who can’t read. Happy?
Nerf balls for all!
saintfan, you’re killing me. I should save that line and use it often… 
Especially with my husband.
Nope. Vulgarity and a poorly veiled condescending tone never made me happy. I should know better than arguing with a sweet Seahawk cum Saints fan.
I hope that finally getting a winning overall record in the NFL might soften your stance. Winners tend to find the value of sportsmanship.
Yet being needlessly hostile in responses serves little purpose, and makes no one happy. 
I think people may feel more strongly about sports than politics or religion.
Interesting exchange I heard excerpted on the radio between Damien Woody and Tedy Bruschi with the latter saying he knows Brady and he wouldn’t cheat. That got me thinking: maybe he’s going to fight this because he didn’t cheat.
And I stand by my feeling that Brady would not give his phone records to the NFL, whether that’s to their law firm or to the league office. And feelings that he should be held to the same standard is fine but of course the NFL doesn’t hold people to the same standards and never has applied the rules that way.
“I think people may feel more strongly about sports than politics or religion.”
Maybe so, though not me, obviously. However, for anything I feel strongly about, even when arguing with some of the few on this site that irritate me endlessly…I don’t want to make them feel bad. I’d like to argue until I win, and have them acknowledge that, but I would never intentionally be mean. Losing an argument won’t keep me up nights, but making someone feel bad would.
Rereading one’s post while drinking a glass of wine can be very helpful.
On the Brady deal though, what is to stop the deflating pair from talking to the press? What do they have to lose? Seems they would be able to cash in big time on the real story, whatever that is, and if someone has something to hide–watch out!
I think it is helpful to embrace your team for all their faults. Growing up (and now living in the Region) I am a Bears fan. My adult life in the Bay Area made me a Raiders fan. I embrace the good, hard-working guy, blue collar aesthetic (Bears) and the thuggish bad boys (Raiders). The sooner the Pats fans accept that they fit the black hat better than the white, then the happier they will be. Embrace the outlaw.
(And xiggi, be a little nicer to saintsfan. It just seems petty)
@xiggi I’m sure your beloved Cowboys have never cheated.
I read the whole quote-- it wasn’t cheating-- it was common practice at the time.
Also that game was 10 years ago-- perhaps you should just move on.
Wait, aren’t we talking about the Patriots?
Xiggi is just bitter because the Cowgirls haven’t really been relevant since the 90’s, with 0 Super Bowl appearances and only 3 playoff victories in the last 19 years.
But they WOULD have won the Superbowl if Holmgren hadn’t put KY jelly on that football, @notrichenough. It is, quite literally, the one that got away. 
With regard to Brady’s cell phone: I initially agreed with people who said that Brady would be vulnerable if he released his cell phone. Then I heard a sports reporter say that Wells had offered to have Brady himself print out the relevant emails from his cell phone and turn them over to Wells instead of the phone itself, and Wells said he would trust that Brady was releasing all relevant emails. According to the reporter, Brady refused to even do that, which is why Wells charged them with failure to cooperate.
If this is a true account, I have to say it does implicate Brady pretty strongly.
I read that a former member of the USC coaching staff is going after the NCAA in court, and the court forced the NCAA to release a number of their internal documents. The documents are very self-incriminating, to the extent that several of the ESPN commentators are speculating the NCAA may not only lose the court case but may end up having to revoke some of the sanctions. (E.g., one of the emails which constituted the strongest single piece of evidence that USC knew what Bush’s parents were doing was actually written in the wrong year to be relevant to the charges.) And the NCAA is still withholding some of the documents which must be even worse for them.
The bigger issue here is that whether it’s the NCAA or the NFL, it seems these sports organizations need to have a little house-cleaning and a whole lot more transparency.
I don’t trust what is said about a supposedly confidential investigation. And that rumor about Brady is exactly the point: if emails/texts are released to someone not under a judge’s control, then people will, at the very least, spout stuff and that can be more damaging than the reality.
With the degree of legalese involved today in NCAA and NFL matters, both organizations should be recognized as primarily business organizations and not sports organizations.
One of the big problems here is that neither investigating body can lay real claim to being “good guys”. They each have their own business and legal stake in the things they investigate and punish and that taints nearly everything they touch. Yeah, I’m sure Brady knew about what was going on and either tacitly or explicitly approved, and it is patently obvious that the Patriots and Brady have tried to obstruct the investigation and deny responsibility. That doesn’t mean that the NFL haven’t done a lot of stupid things that they are now trying to sweep under the carpet, because they have never been willing to do the right thing if there was a more profitable alternative.
You see, I disagree with all those characterizations. From what I read, which isn’t all, and what I’ve heard described in our press and on the radio, the only actual reference to Brady saying something is about him complaining that the footballs in the Jets (of course) game were inflated to 16psi. They didn’t find texts from Tom Brady that I’ve seen or heard of … and you can find those in the receivers’ records if they were sent. One guess is if this guy even deflated balls, then he was trying to make sure Brady didn’t get an overinflated ball.
As to obstruction, the only non-compliance I know of was that they didn’t make the ball guy available for a 4th interview. They said he has another full time job and that was simply too much. And Brady’s agent says he was there for an entire day of questioning, which he has a record of. I’ve noted that if I were Brady I would not turn over my phone because of a fear of leaks and a fear that fake leaks will be put out. In Brady’s situation, real or fake leaks matter, not whether he can sue someone (and recover what?) if that happens.
I’m not going to read the Patriots rebuttal but their main point is the NFL isn’t even sure what gauge was used and that if it was the other gauge then their footballs weren’t under-inflated. The report says Anderson thinks he used one gauge but he can’t remember many other details about the balls or that day. If you take that one point, there was no real issue at all.
As to the NFL, it’s clear they don’t operate anything like their image, which is efficiency and the all-knowing NFL security. Turns out they buy over the counter ball gauges, maybe test balls and maybe don’t, don’t keep track of anything and don’t enforce rules consistently or coherently. But we see the games happen on TV and think it’s all well run. It isn’t. And Goodell must be keeping his job because the league owners don’t want an actually competent CEO who organizes operations and runs them efficiently.