This:
“I don’t think this is a measure of anything as far as your football other than it was guts, stick-to-it and grit and the whole thing, and somebody had to win,” Seahawks head coach Pete Carroll said. “… That’s all we’ll take out of it. We’re not going to take pride in our execution during the day, but we’re going to take pride in the way we went about it and how hard we played and how tough we played and how we stuck with it until the end to get ourselves in position to win.
“How unlucky were the Seahawks to have lost in the final minutes to St. Louis, Carolina, Cincinnati an Arizona earlier in the season?”
Did they lose on freakish, one-in-a-blue moon plays or outright blown calls by the refs? Or did their defense just not get it done at crunch time?
Every team has injuries. How many teams lost their qbs this year and imploded? (Looking at you, Ravens and Colts… and Cowboys).
Unless you block a kick, the defense really has virtually nothing to do with the success of a field goal. Neither team can control when a ref blows the call, even when they are looking right at it. But a blown call at the right time hands you the win.
Every team gets a lucky break now and then, and over time they even out. But it sure feels like Seattle is getting more than their fair share.
Speaking of Lynch, why didn’t he play? Carroll was on the radio saying Lynch was definite for the game.
Hey now, give my Lions some credit. We worked hard to screw up that much! [-(
“Speaking of Lynch, why didn’t he play? Carroll was on the radio saying Lynch was definite for the game.”
Word is, he didn’t even get on the plane. Wondering why.
There is definitely something weird about Lynch here. He should have at least been on the sidelines cheering his teammates on, yes? So odd. And Carroll, when talking about him, sounded like Lynch was calling the shots wrt this situation.
Word is that Carroll went to Friday press conference straight from field and told press Marshawn looked up to speed. He subsequently talked to Lynch who felt that he couldn’t go. It was likely for the best as I can’t see those temps being a good way to start while coming back from that long an injury outing. It would be a good way to tighten up again or re-injure his hamstring, calf or low back all of which have been issues.
I totally get that other teams had major injuries that they had to overcome (or didn’t overcome). The Patriots have been very unlucky in that regard to name a team that has managed to limp along anyway. I’m simply saying that it isn’t as if Seattle has had some kind of lucky golden path through the season to this point. Of course the Vikings were equally lucky that Seattle had a horribly muffed punt attempt deep in their own territory. That had nothing to do with the defense just good luck on their part. Really, the kicking game isn’t a once in a blue moon thing. Teams mess up punts and miss “gimme” kicks and extra points all the time. (I’m still waiting for xiggi’s greased football theory to re-emerge). Is is “luck” when your opponent fails to execute at a critical time?
Minus 6 degrees plus wind chill is frost bite weather. Why would you want a guy who is coming back from abdominal surgery to sit our stand out in that? If it were a dome or warm weather game maybe but going through the travel and weather conditions in this case doesn’t make sense to me either. To hear some of the players talk about their physical responses to the cold (freezing contact lenses and inside of mouth while talking among other things) it doesn’t surprise me that he didn’t go.
Lynch does get different treatment but I think they’d rather have him available in a week or two than try to run him under those conditions and have a set back.
There is definitely luck with football. But for the most part, in the long run (maybe not in the short run, or in a snapshot), teams make their own luck. Today was bad luck or bad kicking for the Vikings, but that amazing broken play that Wilson turned into points? That’s not luck. That’s a really good football player and really good football team. And I hate the Seahawks. 
I still think the Lynch situation is odd.
Peiple love to hate on the Seahawks. When another team screws up or they do something well, it’s luck. Hey, maybe they’ll make it to the Super Bowl three times in a row, because of “luck”.
While I don’t know if there is something more going on with the Lynch story, I will just add that (in my experience), recovering from an abdominal surgery is just kind of different from other surgeries. I’ve had two stomach surgeries and a handful of other major surgeries on other parts of the body (including knee from a sports injury) and the abdominal ones just kind of had a different healing process than the others. I could feel fine for days and then be in excruciating pain out of the blue. It didn’t happen with, for instance, my knee (even though I still have residual pain years after).
Again, I have no idea if there’s more going on but that’s just my two cents.
I’ll also agree that people recovering from injuries really shouldn’t be in those kind of conditions. They’re dangerous for people at 100%.
“Peiple love to hate on the Seahawks.”
And their bandwagon-jumping fans.
ducks
I had hernia surgery a couple years ago and it was much harder than I expected. In that spot it gets you every time you rotate.
Pfft. Lynch’s surgery was 8 weeks ago AND he practiced fully all week. I understand surgeries, etc, but you see Packers and Patriots on cold sidelines after injuries on crutches and postop all the time.
You can hate the fans, just don’t call us “bandwagon jumping” - 39 years of fandom may be Johnny-come-lately in geologic time, but it still counts for something.
Try living in the Chicago area (well, halfway between Chicago and Milwaukee) and being a Packers fans! Seriously, I have two Facebook friends who never, ever post anything on my wall, and when Rodgers made the successful Hail Mary pass a while back, they both had to write something negative on my wall (that’s when I finally had someone teach me how to ‘restrict’ people on my wall - I never knew it existed!)
To be honest, I probably dislike the Bears as much as most people dislike the Packers, but I cannot ever remember writing something on someone’s Facebook wall when their chips were down (unless it was a game we were playing them in, and even with that, I don’t think I ever have).
I think, with the emergence of Rawls, Lynch’s time with the Seahawks is nearly at an end. Rawls uses 10% the cap space of Lynch.
Lynch is no dummy and I’m sure realizes this, so he may be unwilling to do anything to risk re-injury, even if it costs the Seahawks a playoff game. He has to look out for his next contract, or maybe he plans to retire and doesn’t want to be nursing an injury as he rides into the sunset.
“you see Packers and Patriots on cold sidelines after injuries on crutches”
Some teams have policies that if you aren’t on the active roster you can’t be on the sidelines.
Ahh @saintfan, you know I am just teasing. I’m guessing long-time fans such as yourself get just as annoyed at the fans who “discovered” the Seahawks and became die-hard fans when they won the Super Bowl.
Around here we call fans like that “pink hats”. It’s not a complement. 
I don’t actually understand why anyone would hate the Seahawks, and especially their fans. I guess I can understand rivalry, but we aren’t much about hate around here. We are really, obliviously, excited about our team, but I don’t see anyone being hateful of another team. You could probably go to a Seahawks game in Seattle, wearing the other teams gear, cheer loudly when your team scores a touchdown, and people would still be nice to you and maybe even buy you a beer.
So… speaking of hating fans…
Has anyone ever seen anything like the Bengals’ fans throwing trash on the field? Sure, I’ve seen it in football/soccer matches around the world but I’ve never seen it in an American context. (Now octopi on the other hand…)
Seeing as how this was, apparently, the 3rd coldest game in NFL history it’s unlikely that other teams’ players who were about to return from injury but not yet on the active roster were traveling across the country to go stand in those kind of temperatures in modern times. That said, this is almost certainly Lynch’s last season as a Seahawk. Between injuries, his contract desires and his quirky personality I don’t see it happening and I don’t think most people do. The only way I see him playing next season is if he plays for Oakland as a one-off free agent.