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@madad:

The Meadowlands Stadium was built by the Jets and Giants ownership,though the state did kick in like 250 million in road improvements and site improvements,plus the land is owned by the state. Wasn’t a great deal for the fans, the PSL’s (personal seat licenses) they came up with to help defray the 1.5 billion price tage, ended up being a rip off for the ages, when people sell their season tickets, they generally get very little return on the PSL, guys who had to fork over 25k a seat are lucky to get 5k of that back.

That’s why I watch the game from the comfort of home with my 55" ultra high def TV.

The state of MA kicked in $75-100 million of infrastructure for Gillette, and probably some incentives from the town of Foxboro where the stadium is located.

notrichenough—I work near Foxboro and the stadium did not get incentives from the town. In fact, part of the deal was that the town would get considerably more per ticket than they did with the old stadium. Old stadium, town got about 50 cents per ticket with a total cap (which was reached easily if the team did well and/or a busy summer concert season). New stadium, about $3 per ticket, with no cap. Town did NOT approve a Wynn casino there, which angered Bob Kraft.

State did make improvements on Route 1. Then again, traffic on Rt. 1 on game days was legendary. Public safety was at risk.

Not as many good games this weekend as in previous weeks, but the Bama/A&M game should be worth watching!!

Curious to see how my Wolverines handle a third straight bye week (a real bye sandwiched between Rutgers and Illinois) before heading to East Lansing next weekend. Sparty is having a down year (que lastima :wink: ) but you know they’re gonna be up for that game. And after last year…who knows what new and inventive ways Michigan can come up with to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory?

First things first though…handle the Illini then start getting your poop together for Sparty.

It’s a shame that fans don’t have the same kind of scorn and derision for Josh Brown as they do for Colin Kaepernick.

@coralbrook “I admit that I have not read up on all the details but my gut feel is that I don’t think we need another fancy convention center and stadium downtown associated with a lot of taxes… whether the citizens are paying for it or tourists. . I just don’t understand why we cannot renovate the existing Qualcomm stadium.”

I agree 100%. The 49ers don’t need a stadium in San Francisco Fisherman’s Warf and Patriots don’t need a stadium in Boston Harbor to win multiple Super Bowls. It’s just the Chargers owner is too greedy.

I don’t think most fans feel scorn and derision for Kaepernick, and I think a lot of people are pissed off at the Giants and the league for yet another scandal that would have been so easy to deal with if they weren’t so incompetent and tone-deaf.

How the mighty have fallen. South Carolina barely holds on to beat UMass (UMass!) 34-28, and is bringing up the rear in the SEC.

Mizzou is losing to Middle Tennessee.

I didn’t say most but it’s pretty obvious that the reaction is nowhere near the same against the despicable actions by Brown.

Turned out to be a pretty darn good football weekend after all. Packers won Thursday, Wolverines and all our child-affiliated college teams won today, Sparty lost again, and the Hairless Nuts just lost to Penn State. Sometimes life is really good… :-bd

I stayed up to watch the end of the Arizona-Seattle game.

Yes I am crazy.

It was like watching a 4 hour train wreck.

There’s some hilarious gifs going around of Carroll’s reaction when Hauschka horribly shanked the field goal at the end of overtime. The ToS prevent me from posting a link but if you search for “pete carroll missed field goal reaction imgur” of something similar you will find it. It’s right up there with the Sherman on from the Super Bowl. :smiley:

@wolverine86:
Hairless nuts? lol. Where did that come from (and if it is too ribald for CC, pm me it), never heard that one before! It would have made it a great game when Mich and OSU play in late november if they had been undefeated, but if U Mich is undefeated and OSU has the one loss, still will be a blood match.

As far as the pro games go, they wonder why ratings are down? The games for the most part were mediocre (not even talking about the ones I could watch on network tv and such), the NFL has a couple of good teams and a lot of really, really horrid ones. The Giants/Rams was a marvel of horrible play, the Jets/Ravens was almost unwatchable (if Bowles thinks he won because the Jets are a good team, the man is seriously on drugs, Fitzpatrick had 99 yards passing, the Ravens have no run defense, no offensive line, no running back, their big name defensive stars are out). Last nights game was an embarassment, and tonights game is a battle of two good D’s and two crappy quarterbacks, guaranteed to draw yawns. Between injuries, and teams just not able to seem to put together a good, total team, NFL football this year is like FBS schools playing FCS schools the first week of the season, the product they put on the field quite frankly stinks, week after week, with some exceptions, so we are going to see some teams do really well (New England, maybe Minnesota, Maybe Dallas) and the rest are all ‘rebuilding’ or ‘disappointing’.

You can tell what kind of league this is, the Jets are 2-5 and you would think because they beat a ravaged Ravens team the Jets are the second coming of New England. They likely will win this week because Cleveland only puts a team on the field because they have to, then we are going to hear from the pundits about a ‘win streak’. My worse nightmare is the jets somehow go 7 and 9, and we will hear how they ‘streaked at the end’ by the pundits, and that guarantees the current GM and coach another 3 years (at least) of misery for the fans. Put it this way, the Jets went 10-6 last year playing a crappy schedule with basically Rex Ryans defense, this year the defense is a bottom dweller, penalties are their biggest stat, the offense is a joke (I guess now the coaches see why no one wanted Ryan Fitzpatrick at any price), they have gone backwards yet we get told what a great coach Bowles is and what a great GM Mcegney is, when they have actually had the team go backwards. My guess is that after this year, it will be the old song, fans need to be patient, we are rebuilding, putting the pieces together, and 3 more years of misery before Buck Henry (aka
witless Woody, our esteemed owner) decides it is time for a change. I love sports talk radio, one guy was basically told the host (who was trying to apologize for the coach and GM, excuse Fitzpatrick’s horrible performance, how the Jets are better than they look), “Listen, I have been rooting for this team for almost 50 years, and I know what I see, until they actually put a credible team on the field, including a quarterback who isn’t a game manager or someone you need work around, it is the same old Jets, the burden of proof is on the owner, coaches and GM and the idiot pundits who continually say the team is a good one, to actually show it on the field. I am tired of 8 and 8 seasons being acceptable, I am tired of hearing how we are rebuilding, I am tired of hearing it is because of injuries, and I am tired of hearing how the fans are just too impatient, not after dealng with this (manure) for 50 years”

@musicprnt … It’s just a “loving term of endearment” for Buckeyes that developed over the years based upon the smooth external surface of the nut. Combined, of course, with the fact that they don’t have a hair on their…er, heads? L-)

Not sure if they’re beatable in the Horseshoe this year, but I’m certainly looking forward to a great game!!

The history of the Jets failures and fortunes is like the novel ‘Withering Heights.’ Lots of mental and physical abuse suffered by the fans. When they have had a decent quarterbacks they’ve given him few weapons, or they had no defense. Ken O’Brien was a good passer. The ‘Sack Exchange’ defense was vastly overrated (see a dictionary photo of Mark Gastineau for the definition of overrated). And they have had the great misfortune of hiring coaches whom were greatly unprepared for the job. Lou Holtz (quit before the end of the season and caused friction between black players and white players), Walt Michaels (the most paranoid coach in NFL history), Bruce Coslet (the angriest man in the NFL) and the two sad sacks; Pete Carroll and Rich Kotite, both of whom didn’t deserve their misfortune.

They overcompensate Revis, a veteran whom has seen better days, but a few years ago they lost decent receivers, Coles, Crotchery etc. to free agency because they didn’t want to pay them.

Go gators!!

My Red Raiders beat TCU today!!!

@lakewashington;
There was a really good book a reporter wrote about the Jets (he covered them for many years, from the time they started as the Titans in 1960), it was like 35 years of foul ups, screw ups andthe like. Rich Kotite deserved his misfortune, he ruined the Eagles, then took over the Jets and made for several miserable seasons, there are reasons he was never hired again (Pete Carrol I liked, how they fired him I don’t know). And yep, the Jets always had mismatches, the sack exchange defense was a good one, but the offense was so so (Richard Todd wasn’t that great, they had a good running back in McNeil, decent receivers, o line was okay, but not that great). Under Coslet, they had one of the worst offensive lines I have ever seen, it was as bad as Indianapolis, Boomer Esiason should have filed an OSHA complaint for unsafe work conditions lol.

One of the problems back in the bad old days was the Jets had a season ticket waiting list that was 10 years deep, so there was little incentive to win, between season ticket sales and TV revenue old Leon could have cared less if they won. With the new Stadium and the odious PSL’s (personal seat licenses, which for 100 level seats was 25k a seat, people selling them these days generally ask for the balance of their payments on the PSL, the Jets promised fans they could sell them for more than they paid for them) it isn’t quite the same now. Still, Woody doesn’t seem to have a clue, he hired Charlie Casserly to do a talent search (Bill Belichick snorted at that one), and the evil one was right, it seems like, from what we have seen, that neither Bowles nor the GM is going to be a great savior, the draft was so so, and drafting Hackleburger was idiotic, for all the hype about him, if he was so good how come Bill O’Brien didn’t draft him, they jumped ahead of the Jets and O’Brien had recruited him to Penn State…Bowles basically has taken the defense Ryan put together and turned it from a top 5 defense into a mediocre one (sorry, the Ravens game doesn’t count, they have a horrible O line, no running back, the Jets stopped a banged up team). After so many years of hiring defensive minded coaches as head coach, I am waiting for an offensive minded one who actually thinks a good quarterback is a requirement to win, unless you have a defense on the realm of the Denver Broncos last year or the Ravens when they won with Trent Dilfer, you don’t win superbowls with game managers, the Jets have not had a truly decent quarterback since Vinnie T, Pennington was another Fitzpatrick, supposedly a brain who couldn’t throw, Sanchez was, well, Sanchez, and since then, Geno and Fitz…like, great. Woody better be glad he inherited money, if he had to really run a business he would be a major failure.

Yay Dawgs!