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He went to college in the Midwest however.
Who are the other players from Portland?

Most teams have skeletons in the closet.

The Broncos were accused of bugging locker rooms back in the 60s, and were fined twice and docked draft picks for salary cap shenanigans during their Super Bowl run from 1996-1998.

The Seahawks have had 6 players suspended for PEDs and another weasel out of a suspension on a technicality during the Pete Carroll era, who himself got out of Dodge right before the NCAA dropped the hammer on USC.

The Packers had a gambling scandal with two high profile players suspended for betting on games.

The Ravens have their two Rays, Lewis and Rice. How does Lewis avoid a suspension, let alone keep his job, for his role in it?

The 49er’s owner bribed a governor to try to get a gambling license.

The Raiders under Al Davis practically had cheating as a corporate philosophy.

Lots of teams have swept drug problems under the carpet in order to keep players on the field - Giants, Cowboys to name two.

Several prominent head coaches came out after Spygate and said they did the same thing.

Sum of players arrested or charged with crimes since 1999, by team, up to the start of this season:

Houston Texans 11
St. Louis Rams 12
Arizona Cardinals 13
Dallas Cowboys 14
New York Giants 14
Philadelphia Eagles 14
New England Patriots 15
New York Jets 15
Detroit Lions 17
Green Bay Packers 17
Atlanta Falcons 18
Buffalo Bills 18
Carolina Panthers 19
Oakland Raiders 19
San Francisco 49ers 19
New Orleans Saints 20
Washington Redskins 20
Pittsburgh Steelers 21
Seattle Seahawks 22
Baltimore Ravens 23
Indianapolis Colts 24
San Diego Chargers 26
Chicago Bears 28
Cleveland Browns 28
Miami Dolphins 28
Kansas City Chiefs 30
Jacksonville Jaguars 31
Tampa Bay Buccaneers 32
Tennessee Titans 33
Denver Broncos 40
Cincinnati Bengals 43
Minnesota Vikings 46

Of course, everyone will weigh these kinds of things differently. To me, the biggest thug in football quarterbacks for the Steelers.

And Green Bay gets positive bonus points from me for being the “socialist” non-profit team. :slight_smile:

Being publicly owned, I think Green Bay is the epitome of capitalism. :smiley:

They reported over $25 million in net income last year. They don’t pay dividends to the shareholders, so I wonder what they do with that money? Just bank it?

They are an official non-profit, so “profits” go to charity.

Socialized capitalism–I love it.

Even though they are non-profit, they pay income tax… interesting.

It looks like most of their profits are retained, they are apparently sitting on about $300 mil. They distributed about $6 million to charities last year.

I wonder what other teams donate? I can’t find any numbers.

I think it is the way they glorify it so much that angers me, and the fact that it appears to have been intentionally designed into the stadium itself.

To me he is a thug, which is a step above dirtbags like Vick, Peterson, Suh, Roethlisburger, and, ya know, the Ravens. And he is not the only one. That entire defense revels not in the yards they stop or the points they prevent, but the pain and injury they can bring to other people. Sorry, that’s a thug to me, and again, it is a deliberate part of their team plan, to the extent that rather than tolerate a single dirtbag, they created an entire team of thugs. I don’t like that. Remember, this is supposed to be entertainment, and guys like that will always be the bad guys in any story to me.

I should add that to me, the success of the team is a multiplier to anything I have against them. Suh is scum, but most years that has not been an issue to me because the Lions have been so terrible. It irritated me much more this year, but their quick exit from the postseason quickly banished them from my mind. Seattle, on the other hand, does very well… which makes everything I listed worse.

Wow! That assessment is pretty much the opposite of the vibe here. They brought in rugby coaches to teach heads up tackling so they don’t come in helmet first as a rule. They have reduced the defensive penalties substantially this year even with the new rule because they made it their own point of emphasis. Kam Chancellor learned how to read quarterbacks better and worked on good hands so now he will try to jump a route and catch the ball like against Carolina instead of just knocking him into next week after the catch. Here is the tone setting hit by Chancellor on Thomas in the opening drive of the Super Bowl. Manning throws a hospital ball to a receiver crossing through the zone and Kam hits him with his shoulder and hands in the shoulder and knocks him back 5 yards. Nothing dirty, nothing illegal, not head hunting, doesn’t try to knock him out or go for his knees, but sets a tone that Denver never recovered from. Is that thuggery?

http://www.nfl.com/videos/seattle-seahawks/0ap2000000322346/Chancellor-makes-a-nice-tackle-on-Thomas

The hit was clean, but then notice after Thomas is down, three Seahawks run up and get in his face. I’m sure they weren’t talking about the weather…

Chatter after the play is hardly unique to the Seahawks. In that particular case, it can be chalked up to adrenaline.

Row 1, Seat 7. Super excited!!!

ill trade you for my orchestra pit Sonic Evolution tickets.

Got to love Houston :smiley:

I saw a funny leading sentence in a newspaper article tonight, lamenting Aaron Rodgers ongoing injury… “Aaron Rodgers has the most famous calf in Wisconsin, which is saying something in a state with more than 10,000 dairy farms.”

Me thinks I’m not the only Packers fan worried about his injury.

My comments on the Championship games:

  1. It's hard to beat a team twice in a season. The losing team learns about the advantages the winning team uses. An example is the Patriots beat the Jets something like 45-7 but lost in the playoffs because the Jets had been exposed to the Patriots new passing attack and had learned how to defend it. There's also a revenge factor that becomes extra motivation.
  2. So a question is what did the losers learn? GB and Seattle played really early but I don't think Seattle has changed how they play. I think GB has evolved significantly since then. If Rodgers is healthy enough, the learning should benefit GB. As for the Colts, I'm not sure what to say. If the Patriots come out with the same game plan of running so much - they added an extra tackle to the roster and used 6 offensive linemen plus TE's on about half of their plays - then Indy benefits (if they can stop that run and I think they'll be better at it given the effort level in the playoffs). I don't expect the same game plan so I'm not sure about this one.
  3. Effort. One striking thing - really, THE striking thing - about Seattle is that it plays like a college team every week: fired up or, as Pete Carroll would say, "pumped and jacked". Their effort level in the regular season exceeded most opposition most games. This is not true in the playoffs: effort level evens out because it's always there from every player.
  4. I think the road for Seattle has been strikingly easy. Their division, which looked so fantastic, was devastated by Carson Palmer's injury and the decline of the SF defense. This meant Seattle could get its act together slowly over the year. While the blame in SF is often placed on the offense and Kaepernick's lousy performance as the season wore on, the truth is the defense faded a lot last year and declined faster this year and that changed the complexion of SF's games. As for AZ, let's face it: they had no NFL QB. That led to AZ losing to a fairly poor quality Carolina team which could have beaten Seattle until things got ugly late. I think GB can win. Seattle executes well but plays essentially a college offense, which GB has seen. You can run on Seattle. If Rodgers can move around, he makes terrific decisions and is highly accurate so he can work against Seattle's zones.
  5. Indy was barely behind at the half in the last game versus the Patriots. Part of that is Brady threw another bad ball at the end of the half - 3x this year! WTF? - but part is they played pretty well and the Patriots played meh. A few turnovers by NE - which had 2 fumbles last week (which they recovered) - and Indy can win.

Coming from a dairy farming family I love the calf line teriwtt.
Good review lergnom.

I’d rather see the two best younger QBs duel (Rodgers vs Luck).

Although, I think Seahawks-Patriots would be a hell of a game since I think the two best teams are Seattle and New England, and have been for the past couple of months.

Colts played the run better against Denver, it was clear they were stacking up because Manning couldn’t throw it longer than 15 yards. Not going to be the case against Brady. Colts did tackle well against Denver, which was unusual to see.

Unless Aaron Rodgers really heals quickly, he’s gonna take some bone-crushers from the Seattle defense.

NEWS FLASH! Seattle-area city bans the consumption of cheese. My oh my, any Green Bay fan wearing team colors at Century Link Stadium this weekend will be about welcome as a Red Sox fan in Yankee Stadium. Ugh!

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/washington-city-bans-cheese-before-seahawks–showdown-with-packers-175803427.html

The Seattle offense is completely different than the first week. Back then it was “Lord have mercy, we’ve got Percy” with all the fly sweeps and whatnot. They completely got away from their base offense. They now are back to the offense that we know and love only better and Wilson has gotten crisper on his timing routes the last 6 weeks.

That being said, this is anyone’s game. I do think it will be about who wants it more every play from start to finish. So . . . Lord have mercy we’ve got Earl? I’ll take that any day :smiley:

Boomer Esiason on the radio this am saying that Mike McCarthy should put the refs on notice that they should call a fair game re the Seattle secondary. Haha. Saying what everyone knows-- sometimes officiating at Seahawks games, esp wrt their defense, is pretty suspect. Of course, went on to say that GB will need to stop the run (which they can’t) against Marshawn Lynch (which they can’t) if they want to have a chance. Oh well. Go Pack!!

I love the 12th man at CenturyLink. I think every team should aspire to having that level of crowd noise.

I would hope that any Packers fans at the game are segregated into their own little section and I have no problem with that at all.