<p>Um no one forces anyone to post…</p>
<p>Welcome, AnnieBeats. You don’t need a helmet or anything in here. Enjoy the game, enjoy the thread. </p>
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<p>@romanigypsyeyes If I want to discuss football on CC, it has to be here because my football thread was closed. So it’s whatever.</p>
<p>How are guys who get drunk and arrested and suspended all the time in the league, but Tim Tebow is not in the league? That’s insanely unfair. Tebow played well and won when he needed to.</p>
<p>@"Deborah T" Seahawks fan?</p>
<p>Goodell is working on stiffening up the personal conduct suspensions. It is definitely a work in progress but headed in the right direction.</p>
<p>Tebow had chances with 3 different teams who wanted him to be good and he wasn’t. Part of the problem with him is that he is a niche QB and not a good enough pocket passer to be a back up. If you are a back up QB you have to be able to run the offense that is in force. They can’t completely change the offense or only run a few gadget packages for the backup. They can make the play book a bit thinner but not throw it out all together. He was kind of neither fish not fowl. Having 2 QBs with a package of gadget plays is usually just a recipe for conflict.</p>
<p>I think the current success of Russell Wilson and Phillip Rivers should be sufficient to tamp down the idea that Tebow couldn’t find an NFL home because he was “too Christian”.</p>
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<p>@saintfan Technically, he only got one chance. Jets brought him in for attention. He was never gonna play. Patriots would never start someone over Brady, so he was never gonna play either. His only real shot was in Denver, where his head coach hated him.</p>
<p>@Romanigypsyeyes I haven’t seen that here but someone at work told me that yesterday . That is a sad but great story. The Bengals have not always been the family values team. Oh! and that makes me realize that I quite glaringly forgot to include Andy Dalton on my short list of openly devout QBs.</p>
<p>^ and that’s only counting the starters. There are a lot of others in the second and third tier who are devout Christians too. </p>
<p>Tebow is a nice guy, but not an NFL level talent. He didn’t start for the Jets but he filled in several times and never showed anything. </p>
<p>The Jets had Sanchez who they kind of hated but he was decent often enough to keep. They were looking for an alternative in Tebow but he wasn’t the guy either. Of course now they have the Geno Smith / Michael Vick thing going so they are just gonna be the Jets and continue with drama and dysfunction. They like the running QB but they needed one with a better arm. You are very correct in that Tebow was never going to unseat Brady. However, if he had been able to run their playbook he could have been a backup. Belichick is a QB guy.</p>
<p>@saintfan Actually, Belichick is a defense guy. Getting a talent like Brady was pure luck. Things like that don’t happen often.</p>
<p>Yay, Deborah! Glad to see you here! :)</p>
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<p>Maybe way back when. In recent years, he’s overseen some of the more potent passing offenses in the history of the NFL. He’s also developed three of this week’s starting QBs in the NFL: Cassel, Hoyer, and Brady/Garappolo.</p>
<p>Thanks, BB. 
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<p>Thoughts in response to Annie’s post:</p>
<p>More power to guys and gals who figure out how to work well together on teams and as individuals out on the proverbial playing field, wherever that may be, and also contribute to their communities in positive ways.</p>
<p>Also, kudos to the individual who knows how to center him or herself. A handy life skill.</p>
<p>To answer the original question, I feel pretty good about my team’s chances. Even more so after last night. :-)</p>
<p>I felt like Tebow was typical of a college star (where a team was built around his talents) who couldn’t adjust to new offenses. The same thing happened in basketball when IU star Steve Alford proved to be unable to adjust from college to the NBA.<br>
As a Raiders fan, I wanted him to fail miserably, but that had nothing to do with his religion. Once he moved to the Jets, I simply waited for him to perform. In that same vein, I am waiting for Johnny Manziel to show me that he can hang with the big boys. </p>
<p>Speaking of the Jets, what do you all think of Geno Smith?</p>
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<p>But thugs go well with Detroit. With the arrival of Golden Tate, Ndamukong Suh has company in the department of dirty players. Those two are at disgrace in a league that is not known for choirboys. </p>
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<p>Deal! I am always ready for a great burrito. I have had my share of great ones in the place they were created/invented. Well, if one believes the urban legends about the history of the burrito! </p>