Art Schools?

<p>This is a re-post from:
<a href="http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/952107-art-schools.html%5B/url%5D"&gt;http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/college-search-selection/952107-art-schools.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p>

<p>It was suggested that I post here. (:</p>

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<p>Hello! (:</p>

<p>I have always wanted to attend an art school, but have had the difficulty of cost to overcome. At this point, I have a 99% chance of attending a normal school (business branch) then an art school, but would still like to keep my options open.</p>

<p>I looked into the Art Institutes for the longest time, but have read too much "bad press" from former students to hand over my entire college fund, plus some, and hope for the best.</p>

<p>So, here is my question: What other art schools can I consider.</p>

<p>Here is what I am looking for in an art school:
Interior Design program/degree with hands-on work and experience, if possible
$20,000 or less per YEAR in tuition
Dorm rooms (in which case, tuition should be cheaper)</p>

<p>I live in Ohio, but am willing, and my family is willing for me, to go any where in the U.S. that I can afford.</p>

<p>If necessary, I took the ACTs plus writing only, I did not and will not take the SATs. My composite score was 26, I have not received the writing score as of yet.</p>

<p>My GPA is 2.7 and should rise to about 3.0, if not, higher by the end of this year, my senior year.</p>

<p>Thank you for any help that you can give! (:</p>

<p>And, while I am here, I have these schools on my list of possibilities (non-art schools):
Eastern Michigan University
Bowling Green State University
Kent State University
University of Albany (State University of New York)
University of Minnesota (Twin Cities)
University of Binghamton (State University of New York)
James Madison University
University of Wisconsin - La Crosse</p>

<p>Any reviews, thoughts, suggestions?</p>

<p>Please keep in mind that my ultimate goal is to go to a college outside of Ohio. I have lived here my entire life and would like a change of scenery. ;)</p>

<p>Are you looking to spend $20,000 with tuition, room and board combined?. I'm guessing only your state's schools will be that cost. As far as art schools, SCAD seems to give scholarships to everyone, so maybe with a scholarship, you would be close to that amount (don't know if it has Interior design).</p>

<p>On another note, don't bother with Binghamton. It's very competitive and your stats are below their typical standards.</p>

<p>Honestly, I would go to a community college and work your tail off in order to get a 3.5 or better GPA. I would then apply to transfer to Univeristy of Cincinnati that has a fantastic program for Interior Design and has an integrated coop program. In fact, their program was ranked in the top 2 nationwide! In addition, in-state tuition is only $9,000 per year too,which is one of the greatest steals in college tuition.</p>

<p>Handemom - If possible, yes. I have a college fund and my grandparents will be footing the bill until I graduate so that I don't have to take out loans, but I would like to be, at the most, $20,000 in debt to them, when all is said and done. I am looking to be able to spend about $25,000 a year for tuition, room, and board with that, but, as I said, the less debt the better.</p>

<p>I will look into SCAD. (:</p>

<p>Taxguy - Community college is out of the question for me. It is just something I do not want to do. If I go to a community college, chance are that I will never attempt to leave. If I can't manage to get or keep my GPA at a 3.5? My future will be ruined in my eyes.</p>

<p>Also, like I said, my hope is to go to school out-of-state which is why I am looking for colleges that either offer cheaper out-of-state prices compared to most schools, or have the same price for both such as Bemidji State University, which I forgot to list on the possible schools list above.</p>

<p>OR, an OOS school that offers either discounted OOS or in-state prices to Ohio students.</p>

<p>I will look into U of Cincinnati... it is ALMOST OOS. XD</p>

<p>Jelynn, I don't understand your list of schools. What criteria did you use in putting it together? Most of these schools do not offer an interior design major and most have costs above your $25,000/year limit. For example, JMU's tuition + fees alone is $22,600/year for an OOS undergraduate and then you still have to add $7,900 for R&B and more for other expenses (books, travel, etc.). The cost of attendance for OOS at SUNY-A is $28,000/year. And neither has a design major.</p>

<p>I know you don't really like taxguy's suggestion, but if you are serious about becoming an interior designer, his plan could get you into one of the top programs for that field -- and at a relatively low cost. Please consider the CC route to get your grades up so that you have a shot at U Cincinnati's DAAP, which is quite selective in its admissions.</p>

<p>Worried_Mom - I probably should have stated this in my original post. XD When looking into other schools, I am mostly looking for school I can afford. But, I am looking into business programs for receiving a managerial degree.</p>

<p>I still need to research most of the schools, and have since found several to add to the list to look further into, but, I still have the possibility of relieving grants such as the Pell Grant which would allow me to go somewhere even that cost upwards of $30,000. That is, if I get the full amount which is likely due to my mother's income.</p>

<p>My FASFA will be filled out and sent in this February.</p>

<p>My dream is to be an interior designer. If possibly, I would love to go to an art school or a school with a great art design program, but, if not, I would also love to go into a business program. It will help me when I graduate but also if/when I become an interior designer.</p>

<p>I am still looking for any help or suggestions from anyone willing to give. (:</p>

<p>While I agree with taxguy and his suggestion to get your GPA up and get into DAAP at U of C, here are a few suggestions for you to consider:</p>

<p>Kendall College of Art at Ferris State University
Middle Tennessee State University
Texas State at San Marcos
FIT
and maybe U of Minnesota as you had listed above</p>

<p>They all still come in a bit higher than your budget so I suggest you contact them to ask about financial aid for out of state students. It is rare for a state school to give any financial aid to an out of state student. They may give merit aid but you would have to get your GPA (and SAT) scores up for that. They will offer you guaranteed student loans.</p>

<p>I consider you lucky. public schools in NY are tight on $ and art is only so so compare to high powered artschools galore. I never heard of artsy kid wanting to go to Albany nor Bing.
Purchase, New Paltz maybe, FIT if you are that kind of girl ( could be a boy, no offense)
Do you know that midwest is now hot?
Ohio state is nice so I hear/ read, Ohio U got interior design and all that and some poster in this forum insists it is the great school to do UG.
I have only worked a bit of each in Cleveland and Dublin, and visited DAAP U Cincinnati and around Sugercreek but they all were very different from each other. I mean it's a big state - OK, not that big but bigger than here North East.
If money is the issue, I'd look into own state schools and do semester out or summer study somewhere fancy.
You got great options for cheep, really.
PS
good thing you did not mention "R" school, otherwise you'd been hammered down by someone ^who posted rather nice advice.</p>

<p>D and D's friend and I visited U of Minn. What a great city, my D is attending MCAD in the fall. School was not too big, and surrounding town was great. Don't know about any of their programs tho.</p>

<p>Bears and dogs - Huh? "R"? The only school hear in Ohio that is practically a law not to talk about is MU. XD</p>

<p>P.S: I'm a girl. XD</p>

<p>you are too cute.
in that case, check out FIT.
I just walked the street that runs between main building and dorms tonight after seeing fireworks at the Hudson river and don't know how to put it... it looked so much nicer than how I remembered. It was late night and campus was lit nicely plus being summer, empty, quiet and clutter free.
In comparison, there were mob of people on the street heading home after the fireworks viewing and everyone; young old mostly immigrants with all different languages and skin tones hairdos were equally excited and feeling all patriotic for the occasion.
As walking through FIT with all these people, I felt this rather nice fashion/artschool that welcome pretty much everyone with open arms must represents something very NYC or US at large.
I have a son with lopsided interests and really have nothing to do with FIT but now I could see that it might be something you are looking for. got interior design and fashion related business; manufacturing, product development, management and all. no SAT for regular admission and there are AAS, BS, BFA degrees and all sort of part time, night and CE classes. </p>

<p>oh, sorry
the school's name start with "R" and end with " -hode Island School of Design" not in Ohio.
just don't tell worried_mom.</p>

<p>Unfortunately, I just can't afford FIT. ):</p>

<p>Alright, no mentioning of the "R" school. (:</p>

<p>Jelynn93</p>

<p>FIT tuition for out of state student with room and board is $26,690. Above you state no more than 25,000. I'd hate to see you not try for such a small difference. Why not apply and see if they give you any aid? Everyone recommends to apply to safety and reaches for admission Why not throw a reach in terms of $. You never know how things are going to turn out and if you don't try you won't know. Just don't count on it so you aren't too disappointed in the end. Call up the financial aid office and suss them out. Ask, Ask, Ask and Talk, Talk, Talk. Wow them with your portfolio at National Porfolio Day. Let them know you are really interested. Meet the head of the department. Get an appointment. Take a tour.</p>

<p>This goes for all of the schools you are interested in. Throw yourself all the way in...something good will come of it.</p>

<p>@Drae27</p>

<p>I really don't know if I will be able, and won't until February unless someone can answer me this (please =) ):</p>

<p>I have a college fund which currently holds $60,000+ and has until 2015 to mature (don't ask why, I don't know). However, that college fund is through my grandparents, NOT my parents.</p>

<p>Will I need to supply this information to anyone when applying for federal grants? I for sure will not need to take out any loans because my grandparents will be footing the bill, but I still need to apply for loans, if possible, to help pay for it and reduce the debt I will owe them when I graduate.</p>

<p>Will having this fund effect my eligibility for grants such as a Pell Grant?</p>

<p>Also, I did my own taxes this year (as in, had them done by a tax guy and I payed what I owed, it is now my responsibility), however, I am not 18 yet. I will still be 17 when I fill out FASFA. Will my eligibilty depend on me because I pay taxes, or still my parents because I am under 18?</p>

<p>I don't know. There a lot of variables going into what I can afford for college.</p>

<p>My ballpark area is $25,000, though, with or without grants.</p>

<p>I believe a Pell Grant can give you up to $5,500 a... year? Yes, I believe so. If eligibility depends on my mother's income, I will definitely qualify for the full amount, as she qualified for the full amount (she is currently going to school for something, I don't know what. I know she already got her Associates Degree in Criminal Justice). If they go by both of my parents' incomes (separated, currently pending divorce), I may not qualify at all because he makes more then twice what she does yearly. D:</p>

<p>Check out SUNY New Paltz....good OOS cost, great all around school and excellent art school. My son is an art student there and he loves it.</p>

<p>Jelynn93</p>

<p>Some of these questions would be better asked in the Financial Aid forum. </p>

<p>You can also go to finaid .org to gather lots of info.</p>

<p>If your grandparent's money has your name attached to it (529 college savings plan or account in your name) then a college will consider that your money and will expect you contribute significantly until that money is all spent. There is a formula for the percentage they expect. Look it up on that finaid website.</p>

<p>Even if you work and pay taxes you are still considered a dependent if your parent's are alive and in any way support you. ie. housing and food. There are criteria for this too on the finaid website.</p>

<p>I don't completely know the policies around divorced parents but I do believe they count the assets and income of both parents. If one of the parents is totally out of the picture you may be able to write a letter to the financial aid office explaining the situation. But if it is simply a divorce they are both still your parents. Look this up too on finaid.</p>

<p>I don't know much about Pell Grants but I do know about Stafford Loans. These are subsidized and unsubsidized and are available to undergraduate students each year they are in college. $5500 is available to Freshman and it increases until it is $7,500 for seniors. Remember these are LOANS and must be paid back after you graduate. You are talking about 100,000 cost for 4 years of college. Your grandparents have 60,000 for you so you still have to come up with another 40,000. This could be covered by financial aid. But very often those financial aid packages consist of the above mentioned LOANS.</p>

<p>Drae27 -</p>

<p>Nope, then money is actually in the name of my great-grandparents. My grandparents took it over after they passed away. I don't think it is a 529, but could not tell you for sure. All I know is that if I weren't to go to college, I could not access the money until I was 35 for the exception of a medical emergency.</p>

<p>I won't have to take out loans, my grandparents are either going to cover the costs (except for any covered by grants) completely until the fund matures or are going to take money out of it themselves (as they have the power to) as the bills come in and ten pay the rest out-of-pocket when the fund runs out.</p>

<p>They are... rich, to put it lightly. But, again, I am not going to be able to go to a school that costs, like... $36,000 a year just because of this. And I don't want to.</p>

<p>Good for you...so now it's time to get going and find your schools. And get a great portfolio together. FIT also gives you a home assignment. A different one for each major (on the website.) If you read back on some of the threads here in the Visual Arts section you will see that some of the art schools give merit aid (look at the Squee thread). Could be around $10 to $15,000 but with the COA being close to $50,000 that still brings you to the $30 -$35,000 range. As I think someone said above, some of the midwestern art schools are a bit less expensive. If you go to National Portfolio Day this fall you can get a sense of what's out there. You may want to consider some Canadian Schools. Emily Carr in Vancouver, and I forget the names of the ones in Toronto and Nova Scotia. They are less expensive that US schools.</p>

<p>You did mention wanting to do some business studies. I suggest you look at Syracuse University. They have a great art and design program (Interior</a> design | Syracuse University College of Visual and Performing Arts) and can be generous with grants and aid. Plus you could double major. We were very impressed with the school when my son was visiting.</p>

<p>If you can visit places all the better. You will then know what you really want from vibing the environment and meeting students. For instance do you want a city, a town nearby or do you prefer to be on a more insulated campus?</p>

<p>Check out Mass Art (Boston). Less expensive than private art schools for out of state students. Still over your budget, but they might give enough aid/merit to pull you into the range. RIT too.</p>

<p>Will I need to supply this information to anyone when applying for federal grants?</p>

<p>Lie. Lie lie lie lie lie.
The money is through your grandparents, not your parents so really, you are not required to let the college know about this money. Well, you are supposed to tell them how much money you have but if it's through your grandparents and not your parents, they have no way of knowing about it unless you tell them.</p>

<p>My sisters are doing the same thing: we each have 20K from our grandfather but their schools don't know about it. My mom is a single-parent, dad's dead, and she'll have both of my sisters and me in college at the same time for two years. Even with the 20K, we're barely scraping by.</p>

<p>My sisters never told their schools about the money and they both got amazing scholarships and I hope to get the same. My grandfather actually recently died so what we did is give the 20K for each of us to my eldest sister (I'm the youngest of four girls) and she put it in an account for each of us. The money is connected to her and she is an adult. Technically, the money is hers and is in no way connected to any of us. </p>

<p>In short, don't tell the schools about the 60k since it's not connected to your or your parents, and schools only look at yours and your parents' financial records.</p>