<p>Wharton is a great school, but oldfort doesn’t know what he’s talking about half the time. Plus their class is almost 200 kids bigger than AEMs. Again, I chose AEM over Wharton. </p>
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<li><p>Anything but Finance and Accounting will allow you to sleepwalk through AEM. These classes can really be a wake up call. It’s also a matter of how you spend your free electives. So many kids here just absorb “easy” classes. These people sicken me. They know who they are, mostly Hotel School, which is the biggest joke in the Ivy League. Go with Finance, Accounting, and some Johnson and grad-level Econ if you want to be challenged and come out actually knowing something. You can get a world class education at Dyson or Wharton. I just chose what’s best for me, and I personally believe I can get just as many opps here as Wharton, and I have.</p></li>
<li><p>If you get into either you will get into Wall Street, period. I can’t promise you will get front office, but you will get on the street.</p></li>
<li><p>This wouldn’t be that hard. A minor/major in Communication is a total waste imo though. Biological sciences and AEM? Some kids do this, some AEM kids here do decide to go pre-med, and it’s quite a competitive combo when you think about it. PE and VC shops specializing in healthcare/medical products? These kids are going to make a killing someday.</p></li>
<li><p>Check dyson.cornell.edu for the schools curriculum. See Undergraduate, cores. Intro to Business Management (joke class), Marketing (joke class), and our Managerial Econ is a joke. I took straight year of Intermediate Micro/Macro. Yeah, we got some awesome classes here, but students do try to water down the curriculum. Friend of mine got rejected to AEM yet is one of the smartest people I know. I see some of my peers and think back to him and he is worlds more qualified. If you can’t maintain a 3.7+ at Dyson, you probably shouldn’t be in the Ivy League.</p></li>
<li><p>Our Marketing Prof is Perosio, who gives herself way too much credit. She thinks she’s curing cancer or something in her Marketing class. If that’s what you want to do, I still hear the curriculum is solid. Can also take courses in Johnson to compliment your curriculum in AEM too. Mad Men 101 if you will. </p></li>
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<p>You get in, send me a message, I’m involved with the premier investment club here at Cornell. Cheers.</p>
<p>Wharton business school is really second to none and it is well known on the street, so almost every IB would recruit there. Having said that, most of my kid’s friends who wanted to get into IB were able to get a job, and not one of them went to the business school. My kid double majored - math and econ in A&S. Her GPA was just barely high enough to be eligible to apply, but she interviewed well. On few super days, she beat out students from many other higher tier schools (she had to answer many brain teaser questions).</p>
<p>You should be able to maintain high GPA at AEM. Prob & Stats taught at AEM and Hotel are a lot easier than at A&S, less theoretical and more applied.</p>
<p>Securities Analysis/Investment Banking
Advisors: L. Canina, C. Chang, Q. Ma
This track of the concentration is designed for students wishing to pursue a career on Wall Street as a security or investment banking analyst.
Required Course</p>
<p>HADM 4290 Investment Analysis and Portfolio Management
Plus any three of the following courses, totaling 9 credits</p>
<p>HADM 4230 Hospitality Real Estate Finance
HADM 4250 Securitization and Structured Financial Products
HADM 4260 Advanced Corporate Finance
HADM 6240 Reporting and Analysis of Financial Statements</p>
<p>My kid took the securitization course. She loved that course. It is proven to be very useful for her current job. One of her very good friend graduated from Hotel and is working at GS. My nephew is also a student there. He is focusing on real estate. He has been able to get internship every summer through Cornell’s alumni network, more specifically Hotel alumni.</p>
I am a she and I have been in the position you are aspiring to for the last 30 years. You are someone who just transferred to Cornell this year as a junior, so I don’t think you are in any position of being the know it all. I suspect most of the stuff you have posted are all made up, but this is a public forum, you can say whatever you want.</p>
<p>Hello, is that #163 necessary?
I think you should stop picking on this student.
You have been told that many times, and you are otherwise reasonable person, am I wrong?
Yes, it is a public forum and anyone could say anything.
It is easy for you to find out this student’s identity if what you have been telling here are all true. You won.
that is, if the student is not those chosen few, that exist, accepted to Penn.
What is your need to expose in the public?
Should I tell in the public then,
is this the same nephew of yours whose ‘mother’ applied to certain college as a safety that her son did not think it needed?
Or is this the same nephew of yours whose father hosts alumni events at home and smooth things up for his sons?</p>
<p>Please respect every posters as you would to someone you think it’s worthy.
You do not know, really what you are talking about more than half the time.
Thank you.</p>
<p>Hello bears, how are you? How is the stuff animal business? Nice to know that you like to stalk me and Pizzagirl. I know you are trying hard to “expose” me, but I am very consistent. Like most people, I have more than one nephew. The first one you mentioned above is graduating this year from a top 10 school and getting commissioned to serve this country. To make it even more confusing, I have another nephew going to Cornell next year. How do you like that?</p>
<p>You seem mistaking me with someone else with friend of yours.
How can I clear this? I have been asking explanation but no reply came form the official.</p>
<p>No, you are rather inconsistent, that is, except preying on certain young people.
You speak what works for you and your audience at the moment, then change details later on. I do not know which version to believe.</p>
<p>I am familiar with Cornell and have some students I am in contact with, if that is what you are asking. One dances and few lives on campus, that is how I have noted your comments before, and your strange habit of showing distaste toward certain young people.</p>
<p>Otherwise, anyone could contribute, as you have said?</p>
<p>Now, that’s made up. Well, maybe not. It is a big school. So what do you think of the school’s dance program? Which dance club should a more serious ballet dancer join?</p>
<p>Why not ask your older child?
I think if anyone is that serious at that age, either went abroad to train or in junior company in US, which makes attending demanding college full time impossible.
If you really want more of my opinion, you may send message instead of going off topic.
Thank you.</p>
<p>I don’t generally communicate that much via PM because I figure if it is an useful piece of information then everyone could benefit from it. I guess you haven’t been following my posts as closely as you could have. My younger one is actually a more accomplished dancer, but she is still trying to find herself at Cornel.</p>
<p>As someone who just joined CC, you would have had to go way back to read about my sister’s ROTC son (the sister who graduated from Stanford).</p>
<p>Hey Unibames,
I’ve been accepted early decision to Dyson, and I’m way excited to go there this fall. Cornell has an amazing campus and I really like what the Dyson program has to offer. Anyway, I just joined CC because I saw this thread and had a few questions.
Is it possible to get two concentrations? I’m pretty sure I want to work on Wall Street, but I’m also interested in advertising. So how hard is it to get two specializations? Like marketing and finance, more specifically.<br>
How are the frats at Cornell?
How strict is the campus when it comes to partying (like is it like an episode of Campus PD with people getting busted left and right, or is it more lenient?)
Also, if you have any advice for me for when I get there, or breaking into investment banking or anything like that, it would be much appreciated. Thanks</p>
<p>Also, I noticed you said that if you get into Dyson, you can get on The Street, but front office isn’t guaranteed. I know that front office is never guaranteed wherever you go, but will Dyson still provide ample oppurtunity to land the front office for someone who has what it takes? Thanks again</p>
<p>whatitsays–what a curious accusation. Evidence please?</p>
<p>I have been following oldfort’s posts for years and find his/her contributions to be valuable, consistent and helpful. To diminish his/her contributions to this thread, and other threads by association, with such a petty remark is a disservice to those who come here seeking not only factual information but also a broad range of opinions and perspectives.</p>
<p>hey OP, I’m making a touch decision now and have 3 questions about Cornell</p>
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<li>am I allowed to double major at Cornell? specifically, 1 degree from AEM and another 1 from engineering? if not, how about 1 degree from AEM and another from CAS?</li>
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<p>2.I notice that the greek scene at cornell is pretty strong. what if I’m not really the greek type of person, will I get marginalized or be put in any kind of disadvantage (especially when it comes to finding an ibanking/consulting job)?</p>
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<li>can I get an engineering job relatively easily with a cornell engineering degree (assuming I work hard and present myself well in resumes & interviews - I’m talking about the brand name only)? cornell has perhaps the best engineering program among Ivies, but there are so many strong engineering schools out there. can a cornell degree automatically attract firms. and specifically, how is it compared to Berkeley engineering?</li>
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<p>agentlionheart: Congratulations on your acceptance. Answering a few things here:</p>
<p>First, can you declare more than on specialization? And the answer is yes. I’ll tell you the only two I find of any merit is Finance and Accounting though, which are the two most important for Wall Street, that what I’m taking. You won’t need marketing to work on Wall Street. </p>
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<li><p>I’m in a fraternity and I can tell you the greek system here is very weak compared to other schools despite how big it is. Guys here always trying to “out-game, out-frat” each other and come off looking foolish. If anything, it’s a burden on the university here which is part of why they want it out. My fraternity is generally more conservative yet still mix with the best sororities and have the best parties. We rarely let other fraternities mix with us.</p></li>
<li><p>IFC (Interfraternity Council) and CUPD, and IPD all work closely together. Fraternities getting kicked off left and right lately for the slightest things. Some of them are just careless though and deserved it. </p></li>
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<p>Hope this helped. If you want to if you choose Cornell, we can have another conversation off the forums. Stay in touch, and feel free to message me going forward. Cheers.</p>
<p>Hey there. You can double major but have to apply to each separately as well. I’d advise you to look to minors though. I created my own minor in a way just taking classes in art. I didn’t follow any set curriculum. I just made what I felt is best for me rather than what some administrator thinks. </p>
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<li><p>As far as distancing yourself from the greek scene, that won’t harm you in any way whatsoever when applying to jobs in banking. Why would that be a deciding factor? My friends who are actually on the street right now say noone cares what fraternity you’re in and business fraternities are generally laughed at for what attempt to be. You might be thinking “Oh, but Unibames, you’re in a fraternity.” Yes, I joined because of the guys, philosophical discourse we have that is exclusive to our fraternity that we actually take seriously, and yeah, you definitely have access to more parties. Other than that, it’s useless, I remember when I was getting contacts during rush and each fraternity was selling me on their house, what they do, one went as far as telling me they have parliamentary proceeding to organizing a toga party. How do people take this seriously I ask? I turned down top houses to be where I am today and I don’t regret it. </p></li>
<li><p>I know nothing about Berkeley. With a degree in Engineering from Cornell though you will certainly be at the top of the resume stacks when it comes to recruiting though. Worry not. Talk soon.</p></li>
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<p>Oh, and about front office, back office, etc…Try not to think too much into it. But if you must, half of the recruiting battle is this. Half of it is your school, the other half is how your handle your own in an interview. Once you’re a few rounds in at a firm like Goldman, where you went to school no longer matters. You have the best of the best competing for your spot at that point.</p>
<p>whatitsays:</p>
<p>oldfort preys on a lot of younglings it seems and just loves bloviating about its daughter. oldfort, I assumed you were a he since Wall Street is male-dominated as you know. And I’m sure you know that women being promoted is a matter of politics. I am also not aspiring to your “position.” As for the source of my knowledge, it comes from my academics, my internships, my communication with managing directors as senior as you claim to be. One managing director from a bulge bracket which I won’t name said, and I quote, “it’s a small and cruel world for women to work in banking.” Then went on saying how they’re just a pretty face to bring along to show clients during a pitch. oldfort I don’t think you’re a credible source and you’ve yet to add any value in this thread. Kindly go back to whence you came and stop bashing Cornell because you were deprived of the opportunity to attend.</p>
<p>Unibames - first of all, most houses (especially top ones) do not take many sophomores, certainly no juniors. The rush happens in Jan, only houses with any openings would rush in fall. I will say that no one, absolutely no one, gets a junior summer internship through having coffee with one person. You have info from ONE MD, but there are hundreds of MDs from every firm, so what. </p>
<p>No, it wasn’t easy for women on Wall Street when I first started out. It is still not easy. I didn’t get to be where I am by just being attractive, but most people (men and women) I worked with were all quite attractive.</p>
<p>Just came back from Cornell. It was a big weekend for the hotel school and many Greek chapters. Unibames - did your fraternity have an event? The campus was packed with alumni and parents. The Statler hotel was completely full.</p>