since an increasing number of schools aren’t demanding test scores at all. <<<<<<<<<
My take is that there is a type of school that appeals to full pay, non merit, non FA families whose kids have low test scores. If test scores don't match GPA at "normal" schools, it is seen as a grade issue vs a test issue. What are your kids' AP results? SAT2s?
Even when schools might look past test scores for entry, it is what they use for merit, so it isn't much help.
HS allows 1 AP in 10th, 2 in 11th, 3 in 12th. D1 got a 4 in 10th, D2 got a 3. Both took APUSH and ALANG this year. We’ll see. Both are signed up for 3 next year.
Haven’t taken SAT2s. Maxed out on all honors offered.
All I know is that we’ve done well placing kids at solid schools if they have high GPAs. Guys with a 3.7 have been left behind.
BTW - If the schools pay more attention to unweighted then their numbers are fine. If they prefer weighted then it’s less positive. I’ll have to ask the advisor what she knows.
Left behind…from what? There are plenty of colleges that would be thrilled to accept students with a 3.7 GPA.
But this isn’t the chances Forum…whT does this have to do with assets but no income?
GPAs don’t typically work that way. Schools usually unweigh and reweigh according to their own standards. They do that b/c from school system to school system and from state to state there is no uniform weighting scale. Some don’t weigh. Some weigh on a 4.5 scale, some a 5, some even a 6.
Your kids look like your great, typical, avg applicant, but brutal honesty is that they are not going to really standout as top students at schools like UNC and NCSU and they are far from scatterplot givens. The one advantage you do have is that NC law requires that something like 82% be from IS. That does reduce the OOS/international competition.
I think applying to schools like App, Asheville, etc are great options and that they should look into other ones as well. Maybe Western Carolina? Maybe some of the NC privates?
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Left behind from schools like Chapel Hill, Wake-Forest, and Georgia Tech where our GPAs seem to outweigh what the CDS’s report. I shouldn’t even have said 3.7. It’s more like 3.95 will pay for testing shortfall.
This wasn’t really intended to be a chances thread and since I don’t know where they might apply it’s more of a what-if thread. It morphed from merit+need aid, to a before you can worry about merit you have to get in! For NC schools I’m financially fine. (My finance guy will tell me if I’m mistaken). I’d like aid but don’t need it in order to send them. If they go to Asheville maybe they’ll get a little merit aid, maybe not. Thanks to everyone here I realize that need based aid isn’t happening.
I know it doesn’t fit the overall profile but our data show that our students with their numbers have a >90% acceptance rate at UNC/NCSU and probably 100% at the other NC schools. Unless naviance is corrupted it’s quite clear. There are hundreds of data points and we aren’t a sports powerhouse so that isn’t helping more than a very few. I don’t know if legacy makes a difference in which case they lose a step. If the schools change their approach this year then all bets are off. They could prepare rotten applications in which case they won’t deserve it. They could be outliers and be left out - stuff happens. They could pick other schools