At least 9 dead in church shooting in SC

And he didn’t go to just any black church either–he went to one of the oldest black churches in the nation and one where many civil rights leaders, including Dr. King, have spoken in the past.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/06/18/for-charlestons-emanuel-a-m-e-church-one-of-the-oldest-in-america-shooting-is-another-painful-chapter-in-long-history/

http://www.emanuelamechurch.org/index.php

If “we” were unable to act at all after the slaughter of 20 little children and 6 adults at Sandy Hook I see no hope at all.

With profound sadness, I agree.

So sad and so incomprehensible.

If it is proven that the gun used, was the same one given to him by his father, he should face some type of charges too.

I applaud the pastor’s niece. At a time when it would be very easy to escalate this terrible situation, she called for everyone to fight against the hatred between people that seems to be so pervasive right now.

I doubt if there’s any criminal liability for the gifter of the gun. Civil liability claimed by the family of the dead is another matter.

Profound expressions of sadness from State Senator (Reverend) Pinkney’s colleagues; Governor Nikki Haley was reportedly in tears at her press conference. The senator’s seatmate in the legislature, who was a freshman legislator with Pinkney, called him the most civil and kindest member of the legislature.

Let’s start a discussion of the “you rape our women” comment.

As a resident of Charleston, I can tell you this city is reeling from these horrific murders. We are so saddened, shocked and angry - it is beyond comprehension. Roof is pure evil. Who sits with folks for an hour, in a Church no less, and then opens fire? These were good people in our community. What kind of monster could do this. My prayers and thougts are with their families and friends. I am so sad.

Exactly!

If I hated a group of people and thought killing was the answer, I’d wait for the church service. I wouldn’t bring a handgun. I’d try to get ahold of a gun that could fire off more rounds in a shorter amount of time. I wouldn’t want to hang out with them for any period of time beforehand, either.

I agree, Consolation. If Sandy Hook didn’t result in any concrete steps to stop this kind of thing, nothing will. This will only lead to people buying more guns and fulminating about how “if only the people in that church had been armed, this wouldn’t have happened.”

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Who sits with folks for an hour, in a Church no less, and then opens fire?

Exactly!

If I hated a group of people and thought killing was the answer, I’d wait for the church service. I wouldn’t bring a handgun. I’d try to get ahold of a gun that could fire off more rounds in a shorter amount of time. I wouldn’t want to hang out with them for any period of time beforehand, either.


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You can’t apply logic to an evil situation. Rational thoughts are not going on.

when that UAH prof killed others in her biology dept, she sat for about an hour in a meeting with them before she open fired. (she had been denied tenure earlier in the week and this was her payback) Why she waited an hour? Who knows. You can’t make sense out of nonsense.

What is so sick to me is knowing there are tons of hateful, racist ‘people’ who think last night’s church shooter is a hero who did the right thing. Driving home from work tonight a jacked up pickup truck with a couple of young rednecks in front seat passed me with two 3’x5’ confederate flags waiving from truck’s rear bed. How can anyone be so insensitive anywhere waiving rebel flags after last night’s shooting being in news all day…easily I guess if one is full of hate and a racist…I think unfortunately there are too many people like that in America today. Really sad.

I’m sorry, I’m just really, really furious and sarcasm is the only thing keeping me from raging. Between this and everything else, I am having a very hard time just processing what is going on in this country.

I’m leaving shortly to go to a vigil in at a Detroit church. I know that vigils do absolutely nothing but it feels like it’s all I can do right now.

I do apologize if this has already been posted. These are the names, faces, and stories of the 9 men and women who were taken from the world by a terrorist. I will never type or speak his name. He doesn’t deserve it.

http://mic.com/articles/120967/the-9-people-you-should-be-talking-about-instead-of-dylann-roof

The shooter drove 2 hours to get to this particular historic and symbolic African American church. If he just hated Christians he could have stopped at many, many other places to get his point across. This is no “attack on faith.”

Romani, thank you for posting that link! It is too bad that this piece of garbage was captured alive. Now we will get to hear about his crazy, evil agenda… And I will not say his name either.

Unfortunately this post has totally derailed from focusing on the events of a community desperately trying to heal to just another arena to push one’s political
perceptions or ideals.

I just got back from the Detroit vigil. It’s still going strong but I have been quite ill all day so we only stayed for a while. There were a substantial amount of people from all faiths and colors. The Muslim presence there was especially large- not very surprising considering the proximity to Dearborn. The Muslim community is often on the front lines of racial and religious justice vigils (not that that ever makes the news, but I digress). I also know that several local Jewish groups came.

The feeling there is not one I’ve experienced in a long time. It wasn’t anger- it was complete, absolute terror. People were terrified, more than usual (what a sentence that is). It wasn’t even that fear was coming from the Black community, like it usually seems like at these types of vigils, but it was really this sense that absolutely no one is safe. Detroit is very religious and this (from what I gather) feels like an attack on the security blanket of religion (I don’t mean security blanket in a derogatory way).

What was really strange was that I saw absolutely no news cameras there. I know the media was covering the vigils in Ann Arbor but the one in Detroit was much larger.

At the start, like always, comments were on topic and reasonable. First sign of anything that could be mistaken for disagreement with the escalating rhetoric, the wheels come off. The ugly soon sets in.

There’s always a little patch of common ground that remains, though - by his actions, Dylan Roof tore up his membership card to the human race and we can at least agree that his death won’t result in an eye tearing up.

(Death penalty’s always an interesting topic around here, too. The Innocence Project does good work, I hear.)