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America is not a theocracy. The Constitution of the United States does not once make mention of any God or Supreme Being.</p>
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So, freedom of speech means you’re not allowed to stop talking?</p>
<p>do you realize that most state Constitutions are the laughing stock of the legal world? </p>
<p>i mean, the Founding Fathers managed to secure the stability of an entire nation in a few pages; while the state constitutions average 15+ pages.</p>
<p>there is also a statue in the MO constitution about bear fighting, now…i haven’t heard of any bear fighing lately</p>
<p>statute*</p>
<p>*fighting</p>
<p>Furthermore, I’d like you to consider the religious, specifically Christian, tone of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution. </p>
<p>Also, consider that Americans by large are a religious people. Does it bother you that before a person testifies in court he must swear over the Bible to tell the truth? </p>
<p>Finally, realize that religious belief is not equivalent to race.
If you disagree, consider this:
maybe you should vote for Hilary Clinton because clearly the fact that the last 43 presidents have been white, middle-aged men must be discriminatory against women.</p>
<p>Fides, hahaha
I directed that remark at you because I knew your response.
I also guessed that your response would get people to attack you. lol</p>
<p>But anyway, Fides is an honest Catholic, not an atheist ■■■■■.</p>
<p>sorry</p>
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As I’ve just said, the Constitution makes no mention of or allusion to God or any Supreme Being. The Declaration of Independence was written over the course of a week and is not meant to be a legal document for the United States.</p>
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Yes, it does. BTW, no person “has” to swear over the Bible in court–they can choose to “affirm” that they will tell the truth.</p>
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I never called these state constitutions racist, and I have no idea where you’re getting that from.
And I never said that we should have more atheists in public office. I don’t support Hillary and probably would not vote for her but that does not mean that I don’t think women should be allowed to run for President. It’s a completely different matter.</p>
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<p>Many of the heavyweights among the founding fathers were deists, and strongly opposed to institutionalized religion. They may have appealed to a higher intelligence, but that was standard rhetoric for the time period and should have nothing to do with modern law.</p>
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<p>Americans are by and large involved with political parties, but do you see them running moderate voters out of town? Would people exposing themselves as independent force them into being social pariahs? </p>
<p>That’s the way it currently is in America. The question everyone is asked is “do you believe in ancient myths?” and if someone’s answer is no, that person has the pleasure of being lumped in with the most distrusted minority in the country. A minority that is not a centralized group, does not share common values with each other, and bares no distinction from the rest of America except for their lack of belief in “something”, whatever that “something” is.</p>
<p>I honestly could care less to argue, lol…but, because I am way too full of myself to let my statements get misconstrued like that, I will issue a pointless rebuttal (lol)…</p>
<p>Actually, Americans not involved with one of the major parties ARE run out of town. Would you like a member of the Green party as YOUR neighbor. I purposely did not put a question mark there. </p>
<p>uh-huh…</p>
<p>There was no question here for you to answer. </p>
<p>You are the weakest link.</p>
<p>Good bye.</p>
<p>“Actually, Americans not involved with one of the major parties ARE run out of town. Would you like a member of the Green party as YOUR neighbor. I purposely did not put a question mark there.”</p>
<p>Um, we aren’t talking about political parties here, they are discussing religion within government. Although usually party members associate themselves with a religion, that is not the reason that they are part of that party. </p>
<p>“The Declaration of Independence was written over the course of a week and is not meant to be a legal document for the United States.”</p>
<p>why not?</p>
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<p>I will not allow my viewpoint to be misconstrued in such a fashion.</p>
<p>The choice of many voters to remain independent of political parties and, instead, make decisions free from party mantra, is totally defensible. Independents are widely accepted in political society, and their position in national elections is considered a sensible approach.</p>
<p>Atheists have remained unconvinced with religious beliefs, and choose, instead, to ground themselves firmly in reality. They are in relative spiritual and mental equilibrium, and can be considered “independent” in a religious sense.</p>
<p>Yet, this does not stop them from being hated by most people in the country! Certainly, some atheists perform acts that we can all disagree with, but do you distrust all Catholic Church members just because a couple priests chose, under their own volition, to rape little boys? Of course not. That’s all I have to say.</p>
<p>Oh, and one more thing:</p>
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The Declaration of Independence is exactly that–a declaration by the colonies that they no longer wish to be a part of Great Britain. It was actually originally a non-binding resolution proposed and passed during the Second Continental Congress, something akin to the resolutions that the UN passes today.
Although the Declaration does make mention of God, it is important to note that a number of important Founding Fathers, including Jefferson and Paine, were Deists and not Christians, believing organized religion to be deceptive and harmful.</p>
<p>The Constitution is meant to be the true foundation for the government of the United States, and as I’ve said, it makes no mention of a God or Supreme Being and mentions religion only once–in the First Amendment “seperation of church and state” clause.</p>
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<p>a.) The question was of not being aligned with any party (being an independent), not of being aligned to a minor third party. As Green Party members are not independent, it really doesn’t play into that exact argument.
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b.) Why would you not want to live near a Green Party member? Do you know anything about them? They share most of their standpoints with Democrats and a few hints of mild libertarianism, with a heavy emphasis on environmental concerns. They are not a radical group at all. Chasing them out of your town would be as silly as chasing away a family of Mormons.</p>
<p>Frame-</p>
<p>Yes, I use internet lingo on an INTERNET forum. Insane, huh? LOL</p>
<p>“The Constitution is meant to be the true foundation for the government of the United States, and as I’ve said, it makes no mention of a God or Supreme Being and mentions religion only once–in the First Amendment “seperation of church and state” clause.”</p>
<p>Totally agree.</p>
<p>I just always thought that the Declaration of Independence was an official document, didn’t know why it wasn’t. Thanks though.</p>
<p>These laws really need to be taken out and shot!</p>
<p>I wish there was AA for Atheists.</p>
<p>^What? Atheists get drunk because of the discriminatory laws?</p>
<p>Or, the OP has moved on with life. The post is over three years old.</p>
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<p>Lol, I used to use AIM soooo much back then. Now we’ve got ooVoo. Get with it 2007.</p>
<p>North Carolina is more conservative than Texas! And that’s saying a lot, since the motto “Don’t Mess with Texas!” is in every sense a conservative saying. Did you know the punishment for certain sex acts in NC is 10 years? I am just stating a fact, nothing else. I didn’t know that until recently. Sheesh, that’s an eye-opener. I thought Texas was the most hardliner state in the country.</p>