Athletic/Academic/Other Money combinations

Athletic Recruits
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<p>Sorry if this has been answered.
Daughter is a senior and has been recruited to play D1 soccer.
Due to moving (we are military), and our ignorance (my wife and I played college sports years ago when you were recruited as a junior), she was late to the process.
First child, we are not familiar with the NCAA rules.
Her #1 school gave her two options.
Option 1- Athletic money, but not much of it based upon out of state tuition as most of their money is gone. Very difficult to get in state tuition at this school, but she has no ties to states where she is a “resident”.
Option 2- Academic money that would be more and play as a walk on. I guess if she takes any athletic money the academic money counts as “athletic” money?</p>

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<li>If she takes the athletic money are we permitted to apply for third party scholarships or would that then count as “athletic” money?</li>
<li>My daughter is applying for an ROTC scholarship. Does that affect athletic money?
Other considerations? Thanks.</li>
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<p>My understanding is that your child can take:</p>

<p>1). any merit (non-need based) money offered by the school on the same terms it is offered to any other student, such as presidential scholar, math department grant, music talent scholarship, award for completing FAFSA by a certain deadline, etc. The student can also take all federal or state need based aid - Pell grant, SEOG, Perkins loan, Stafford loans, state need based grants or awards scholarships.</p>

<p>and EITHER 2 or 3, not both:</p>

<p>2). Athletic award or 3). School need based award.</p>

<p>Outside scholarships only count as athletic awards if they are entirely based on the athletic performance of the athlete. A student can take an Elks Club award or the Mayor’s Student government award without the coach having to count the award against the team maximum. If the award if from the newspaper for being Miss Basketball, then you need to let the coach know and that amount MAY be considered as part of the team max for scholarships.</p>

<p>It seems that your daughter should be able to take both the school merit/academic and athletic scholarships. She should be able to take an ROTC scholarship too. Time for both a sport and ROTC may be an issue, but that’s up to you.</p>

<p>My daughter took a 1) school merit scholarship, 2)a grant for visiting the school before applying and for knowing an alum (both offered to any student in the school), 3) an athletic scholarship, a state grant for attending a private school, 4) a state award for high school performance (Florida Bright Futures), 5) and a private scholarship from a civic organization. She got no need based financial aid from the school or federal/state.</p>

<p>Are you sure your military status doesn’t give her instate status anywhere? Often the one year residency is waived if you are stationed in that state, or you can have it in your home state even if you are living elsewhere. Check.</p>

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<p>Unfortunately due to moving around so much (she has lived in seven states), the places where she qualifies for in-state are not a help as she was not recruited by programs there and also has no ties to those states where she qualifies.</p>

<p>When I go to the school’s website and enter her GPA/ACT scores it essentially gives her about a 50% discount on out of state tuition. So this money can be used in addition to the sports money? The way the coach talked this was not the case, though something may have been lost in email. Do you have a link for the NCAA reference?</p>

<p>ROTC commander at her #1 school is very enthusiastic about recruiting athletes. Coach likes ROTC- free money for an athlete.</p>

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<p>Go to the NCAA clearinghouse website (she is going to have to register for eligibility anyway, and just a heads up, they need to receive an original transcript from each school she has attended since 9th grade; the last school send its info plus a final graduation transcript, but each other school must send its own transcript to the clearinghouse- learned this the hard way!). There are several tutorials on different issues, mostly about talking to coaches and dates, but there should be one on awards.</p>

<p>The only place I ever saw it written was on the NLI where I signed away any school need based aid. The coach had to explain it to me because I panicked when I saw that, and she explained that need based aid is not okay, but any aid available on the same terms as it is to any other student is fine. (She couldn’t have attended without the merit aid, which is more than the sports award.) At my daughter’s school, the merit aid is a formula, with gpa, scores, and class rank determining what you get. Same rules for everyone. My daughter applied for an award at her high school (basically best female athlete) so I asked the coach if that would go against the team max scholarships. Daughter didn’t get the award, so I still don’t know the answer. It wouldn’t have been a big deal anyway.</p>

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<p>I think twoinanddone nailed it - the guiding principle is that there should be no workarounds for athletic scholarship $. A school like Stanford, for example, can’t stack need-based with athletic because that would basically give them unlimited athletic scholarships. Academic merit has to be based on certain numbers and can’t be tailor-fit to accommodate an athlete.</p>

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<p><a href=“Schools Use Flexible Scholarship Limits to Get More Athletes Aid”>http://www.athleticscholarships.net/2012/07/25/schools-flexible-scholarship-limits-athletes-aid.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>When I googled ‘combine athletic and academic scholarships’ several items came up, many from CC in this subcategory! So search here.</p>

<p>I think it said it was in NCAA rule 15?</p>

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<p>try this (first page): <a href=“Financial aid/Athletic scholarship combination - Athletic Recruits - College Confidential Forums”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/athletic-recruits/1461622-financial-aid-athletic-scholarship-combination-p1.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;