AU has changed OOS Presidential Scholarship

<p>Do we think UA will make any changes? AU reduced presidential to 2/3 tuition. My S didn't have the gpa to make that level anyway. The next level down has the same 2/3. Wonder how soon colleges will post these changes. I will have to re-do my spreadsheets.</p>

<p>great question - I was wondering the same thing. </p>

<p>Hope mom2 can let us know if she has heard any rumblings.</p>

<p>A spreadsheet is a great idea. How do you have yours set up?</p>

<p>I cannot foresee Alabama reducing its scholarship to 2/3 tuition for one reason -- because it is in direct competition with Auburn for the same student in many cases.</p>

<p>Yes, here is hoping they don't change it and don't raise gpa requirements! As far as the spreadsheet we have the big list down the left and all the important data in columns-
rolling/ea/ed dates, schol dates, costs, rural/urban/merit facts/ap type etc- probably 20 or so columns on the right. But it seems I keep adding a new column everyday and I haven't populated them, so a lot of work to do. Maybe S can do it in his spare time!</p>

<p>Wow....that's a big change! That is really good news for Bama! And, please note, they're not guaranteed.</p>

<p>*Academic Scholarships are awarded competitively, and the minimum test score and GPA required for consideration at any level does not guarantee a scholarship will be awarded at that level. *</p>

<p>The fact that you need an ACT 33 and it covers only 2/3 tuition is not going to make a lot of people very happy. </p>

<p>I can't remember what it was, but when I was at Bama recently, something was said that suggested that Bama's scholarships would be the same. Bama does have more money than Auburn does.</p>

<p>^ All the criteria is the same as far as I can tell, only the tuition award at the Presidential level has changed from full oos to 2/3 oos.</p>

<p>You are right, for those of us who are oos, have rising Sr's, and would like our kids to decide on the merits of the school and the best fit for our individual student... this is not so great...</p>

<p>Good question, Indict. If it makes you feel better and for what it's worth, I was talking with the dean of engineering at UA just last week and asked the same question. He said that there had been no discussions of changing scholarship packages at UA in the near future. He felt that they would stay the same, at least for the short-term. </p>

<p>You do have to monitor the merit offerings. We were fairly stunned at the recent changes in scholarship offers at schools like Texas, Florida and Georgia. For various reasons, the merit money scene has changed drastically for top level OOS students applying to these institutions. </p>

<p>For example, at Georgia where D1 was offered a full ride, D2 (with better stats) was offered in-state tuition but only HALF the OOS tuition was waived. Of course, that made a big difference in the final package for an OOS student. But Georgia education is in a bit of a budget crisis this year--they actually had to take 6 unpaid leave days to make ends meet so obviously the economy is impacting the merit money in many places. Thankfully, UA has avoid these cuts. Good luck with the hunting!</p>

<p>Bikedad</p>

<p>Did Auburn reduce its Presidential Scholarship to 2/3 tuition for the coming year? We have friends that chose Auburn over Bama because of the architecture program, but they were not NMFs. They did have the Presidential, so they were counting on full tuition.</p>

<p>This caught me off-guard and really makes a big difference for my OOS son with Presidential stats (looks like he will miss NMF by one point). He is also looking at UA-Huntsville, so when I saw the change at AU, I immediately checked UA's site and UAH. UA has not made any changes to their website for the OOS scholarships yet, but UAH has their page down 'under construction'. We are traveling to visit all three schools in late June (along with Georgia Tech and Vanderbilt) so I will definitely let the admissions people know how this will adversely affect our decision.</p>

<p>Did Auburn reduce its Presidential Scholarship to 2/3 tuition for the coming year? We have friends that chose Auburn over Bama because of the architecture program, but they were not NMFs. They did have the Presidential, so they were counting on full tuition.</p>

<p>Of course not. This is for those who will be applying this next fall.</p>

<p>Thanks, mom, good to hear. It would seem an obvious question, but we did just get back from Bama Bound, and they mentioned something about rates for Fall 2010 not being posted until July 2010, so I didn't know if that applied to all Alabama state schools.</p>

<p>Tuition rates are different from scholarships and school do often give tentative rates for the coming year until trustees decide either in spring or summer..</p>

<p>Once a scholarship is offered and accepted, the school is bound to it.</p>

<p>FWIW, UT-Knoxville did the same thing last year and it made a difference to my D. They had previously offered in-state NMFs a full ride (with the HOPE instate lottery scholarship & the additional guaranteed NMSF & NMF scholarships.) All of a sudden in July, they pulled that info off their site. They replaced it with a very vague statement that NMFs would receive a scholarship package. </p>

<p>When D got her final package, it wasn't close to what they used to offer. And she was accepted into the Chancellor's Honors Program (which they say was less than 250 freshmen.) Actually, we don't know any TN kids (including our top 10) who got great offers. She was already in love with UA at that point, so really a full ride offer from TN would have been nice, but ultimately declined. </p>

<p>Keeping my fingers crossed that things don't change that much before 2014 when D2 graduates!</p>

<p>Schools often change their scholarship offers over the summer for the next batch of applicants. That's why people can't depend on what a friend may have rec'd or whatever from a previous year.</p>

<p>The only other thing that caught my eye on the AU site but I don't remember if it is a change- was that for scholarships "AU will calculate any gpa that isn't on a 4.0 scale and weight grades based upon honors, AP's etc accordingly" (not an exact quote). Of course who knows what calculator they are using for 4.0 scale, but it could benefit those whose schools don't weight grades.</p>

<p>Hey, can you provide the link for above about the weighting of grades?</p>

<p>Office</a> of University Scholarships - Frequently Asked Questions</p>

<p>How does Auburn calculate high school GPA for the purpose of awarding scholarships to incoming freshmen?
The cumulative GPA (weighted or unweighted) indicated on the high school transcript is used in determining eligibility for admission and scholarships, provided the GPA is calculated on a 4.0 scale. Admissions Processing will automatically recalculate the GPA if it is not provided on a 4.0 scale or if a weighted GPA is not provided and the student course work includes Advanced Placement, IB, Honors, and/or Gifted courses. For more information regarding high school GPA, please contact the Office of Admissions and Recruitment by phone at (334) 844-6425 or by e-mail at <a href="mailto:admissions@auburn.edu">admissions@auburn.edu</a>.</p>

<p>raddad1, there is also the university of alabama birmingham, i know it has has biomedical engineering (havent checked what other engineering it has) and oos scholarships...if qualifies for top merit of 6K, he would be left with about 14k per year (including room and board)</p>

<p>I wonder if the weighting of grade/gpa info is new? I don't recall seeing it before, but not sure if I had looked into faqs before.</p>

<p>Parent56: Thanks for the info on UAB. For some reason, we didn't have that school on the list. I think it is because originally my son was looking at Chemical Engineering which they don't have. He has since been looking more at Material Science and Engineering which they do have and UA-Huntsville does not. And it looks like their top merit aid is 9k per year which makes it quite a bit more affordable. Guess we will have to shuffle things around to visit there also.</p>