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<p>@kenny1991:
What you have to realize is the the US does not encourage vocational undergrad education in the way Australian universities do - vet science (at a veterinary college) is typically offered post-grad, after you’ve completed your undegrad degree. You are also often required to sit the GRE, and even sometimes the MCAT. For example, you mentioned UGA’s program, which is described here: [The</a> UGA College of Veterinary Medicine](<a href=“http://www.vet.uga.edu/admissions/index.php]The”>http://www.vet.uga.edu/admissions/index.php). They are a post-grad program. Likewise, the recognized top program in vet science in the US, at Cornell, is post-grad only (see: [High</a> School Student Information - Cornell Veterinary Medicine](<a href=“http://www.vet.cornell.edu/admissions/hsinfo.htm#when]High”>http://www.vet.cornell.edu/admissions/hsinfo.htm#when)).</p>

<p>Consequently, it would be unfeasible to think about studying vet-science in the US at this stage. Not to mention, most admissions applications have been due since Dec 31/Jan 1 or Jan 15, so you may have missed out entirely on this admissions cycle. bbbbbbbblove recommends transferring, which is a good plan if you want to study a liberal arts degree in the US (and probably major in something like biol or chem), before going to veterinary college post-grad…</p>

<p>(Oh, and if you’re interested in getting to know the vet-science programs on offer, <a href=“http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-veterinarian-schools/rankings[/url]”>http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-veterinarian-schools/rankings&lt;/a&gt; are a set of rankings made by US News - they are very commercialized and often a bit sus, but nevertheless will generally point you in the right direction)</p>

<p>hey, yeah i read a bit about it last night, and most of the threads i looked at mentioned pre-vet schol (undergrad) then going into vet school (post grad)… im guessing pre vet is kinda like pre med and yeah… but if i did my bach of science course in sydney, and then applied for a transfer into the post grad vet science course in america anywhere, does that still work? thanks.</p>

<p>^What you are thinking about is not a transfer. If you complete you BSc at USyd, then you’d just be applying as a new applicant for vet school over in the US. It “works”, because that’s just the normal process that all American applicants also would be following. Remember to sit the GRE sometime during your time at uni here - it’s another test, kinda like the SAT, that most grad schools require of applicants.</p>

<p>(you’re right btw, ‘pre-vet’ are subjects like biol, chem, and maths just like pre-med, that most vet-schools expect students to have done at college…with ur BSc at USyd, try to cover as a bare minimum all the courses required by whichever vet schools you might be interested in applying to)</p>

<p>so does my bach of science course (undergrad) do a pre grad (vet course) in the states? What i mea is that that if i do this course, do i still have to do the pre vet stuff in america? or can i go straight into vet school? Also i dont need to sit any SAT’s because i have completed some tertiary study? Or does american college’s still require me to sit the SATs?</p>

<p>I guess it would depend on what courses you actually choose to take. I don’t know USyd’s offering all that well, but try to find out what courses you can take, and try to match them with the courses required by vet schools in the US. If you’ve covered those courses you won’t need to do any supplementary work in America before vet school.</p>

<p>Also, you don’t need to sit the SATs because they are for people looking to go to college, not grad school. You wouldn’t be applying to college - veterinary college is a misleading name because it ain’t ‘college’ in the undergraduate sense of the word. As I said before, you would need to sit the GRE, and quite possibly the MCAT, which are sorta the equivalents…</p>

<p>And while you’re at USyd, consult with people in their careers centre (<a href=“http://www.careers.usyd.edu.au/[/url]”>http://www.careers.usyd.edu.au/&lt;/a&gt;). They would have more experience with the post-grad process, and likely would have guided students in similar situations through the process.</p>

<p>yea its a misleading term !!! So yeah i spose im just gonna have to try and work my ass off in sydney, and apply for a transfer after my first year and at the same time apply to some americas colleges (post grad) and tryyyy myyy bestttttttttttttttt… There isnt much else i can do… i will also apply for other uni’s around australia… But i have always wanted to go to colege in the states since i was veryy little, so yeahh</p>

<p>feathers.o’four, I’ve also considered staying in academia in the US (though I’m not set on it), and MIT is at least in my top 3 favourites lol. The issue of bachelors-here-and-then-postgrad-in-the-US versus college in america is also something I’ve been thinking about a lot. Are you going to commence uni here in aus this year? If so, where?</p>

<p>@ EphemeralEternal: I’ve been reading through the thread, and I see you got into yale! Congrats, that’s amazing! And I just thought you might like this vid:
[url=<a href=“http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGn3-RW8Ajk]YouTube”>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGn3-RW8Ajk]YouTube</a> - That’s Why I Chose Yale<a href=“if%20you%20haven’t%20already%20seen%20it”>/url</a></p>

<p>Also, just a general question for everyone: what exactly should a teacher recommendation contain? I’ve heard that it should list your extracurricular activities so that the admissions officers know you’re not lying ect ect when you list ECs on your application. What else should a teacher recommendation have in it?</p>

<p>Hi everyone, fresh NSW HSC graduate here! </p>

<p>I’ve always been interested in going to MIT but never bothered because of the prestige of the uni and all that. Consequently, I never bothered to apply (plus, I probably couldn’t afford it anyway). However, it seems I didn’t completely waste my time filling out applications because I only got 95.20 (lets admit it: the US syllabuses bury the NSW syllabuses) in the end with pretty crap EC’s, but I decided that I would perhaps want to do some undergraduate study or postgrad studies.</p>

<p>So, I came here for advice! I am aware that you need to fill in college applications and do SATs (and have good EC’s V_V), but that’s about as far as I can say I have knowledge in the whole process - especially for an international student. </p>

<p>Could anyone please help by providing a link/s with any cool preparation info in any of these areas, or just shoot me down now and say I have no chance ^_^</p>

<p>…Also, university offers come out tonight! I’m gunning for UNSW :D</p>

<p>EDIT: I have been looking at this site, is this all I need to know? (I am not in a rush to push any applications forward yet) <a href=“http://www.usaeducationguides.com/[/url]”>http://www.usaeducationguides.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>All you need to know can be found on each of the individual universities’ websites. </p>

<p>MIT particularly, has an extremely detailed and informative section going into the application process step by step.</p>

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<li>How do you plan to study overseas though? If you want to enter as a freshman to do the 4 year undergraduate degree overseas - starting at UNSW and studying there for this year will make you ineligible as a freshman, and you will enter as a transfer student. (Meaning probably no financial aid, and chances that slim exponentially). You may however take advantage of UNSW’s exchange programs and you might be able to study in the US for a semester or even a year. (Travel Abroad programs). Graduate study? A whole different can of worms - one I’m not familiar with, but then again it would be 3/4 years in the distance post-UNSW. </li>
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<p>I’m trying to clarify - the application process is very different, depending on which stage you’re trying to enter at.</p>

<p>If you’re really sure you want to pursue this crazy process of US college admissions, (:D) then you should defer your UNSW offer, take a gap year, take the SATs, do as much research on US colleges as possible, and start sending in applications towards the end of this year. As the deadline for applications for this fall is well over, you can’t go to a uni here if you intend on becoming a member of the next class ( '15) as that would make you a transfer applicant once you complete a year of studies at a university.</p>

<p>Well I’m not really motivated to go for freshman now (my parents nearly had a heart attack when I wanted to live on campus in Australia), plus I have scholarships backing up my undergrad studies so I’m not that desperate. The only reason I considered it is because some friends of mine who are already in uni recommended it, so I gave it a look at.</p>

<p>I will definitely consider UNSW’s exchange options though. Is anyone familiar with applying for graduate studies? I’ll inquire at UNSW as well - I’ve already enrolled.</p>

<p>Hey guys!</p>

<p>Since the UAC offers are out just thought I’d check in and ask about everyone’s plans for the beginning of the year. I’m starting at University of Sydney and hoping to get into a US college and then drop out of USyd. What’s everyone else planning to do?</p>

<p>@100…101: I don’t know a lot about graduate studies in the states, but I know that there are normally a larger percentage of international students in the US grad schools. I also believe that there are more opportunities for international students to obtain scholarships in graduate rather than undergraduate, where aid is need based and often very limited for internationals.</p>

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<p>Sort of, but not really. Graduate schools offer far less grants and far more loans. So an international student could very well cop a 150,000 debt at the end of the graduate degree. Specific scholarships will need to be researched as to a particular university. But I imagine they’re VERY competitive, probably even more competitive than undergrad places. (Think about all the grad students wanting to do research overseas - tonnes of them).</p>

<p>@AUS-S1, Aussie333: I’m going to accept a place at USyd for the time being, as I have no confidence in actually getting into my US colleges.</p>

<p>Best of luck to all those doing their SATs or Subject Tests today! (though by the time you read it the tests will no doubt be over…)</p>

<p>Some advice for future applicants: do your SAT/ACT/Subject Tests as soon as possible. If you can do them in Year 11, don’t wait till Year 12. Register early, as some posts recommended before, especially with the language Subject Tests. And remember that no SAT score can possibly get you in - there are far too many Australian applicants with a competitive score that colleges don’t really care once you reach the upper percentiles. The same is true of high school scores. Don’t fret!</p>

<p>Interesting information, thanks a lot. Are SAT scores still a requisite for graduate studies, or are they based on average performance?</p>

<p>…Because I’m totally aiming for a HD average.</p>

<p>I did my SAT yesterday and screwed up the essay part. =( I was really surprised by the large number of Australians we were taking the test!</p>

<p>Anyway, @100000100101: SAT is only required if you are applying for a bachelor degree. I’m not 100% sure about this, but I believe you need to take the GRE if you are applying for graduate studies.</p>

<p>@feathers.o’four: Don’t get down on yourself. =) You can do it!</p>

<p>@100000100101: natalle is correct; you do not do the SAT for post-graduate stuff. For post-graduate degrees you have to sit other standardized testing. If you want to go to grad-school (i.e. do an MA or PhD in arts/sciences), then you do the GRE; if you want to go to law school, then the LSAT; and if you want to go to b-school, GMAT etc.</p>

<p>University results won’t matter as much as recommendations from professors, particularly with regards to your research capacity if you intend to go to grad-school, or your leadership/communication/entrepreneurial skills if you want to go to law/b-school. Keep in mind both issues of both opportunity cost (i.e. spending years studying in the US, often without much funding, when you could be working after getting your degree from USyd), as well as a sense of what you actually want to do with your degree in the US…a further degree there might be enjoyable, but might not be useful depending on what you want to do.</p>

<p>It might be useful for you to go speak to the people at Education USA. They don’t generally know the particulars well, but for someone approaching all of this from a fresh perspective, I think they might be useful. See: [Student</a> Advising Sydney](<a href=“http://sydney.usconsulate.gov/sydney/student.html]Student”>http://sydney.usconsulate.gov/sydney/student.html)</p>

<p>^ In terms of how many people there are doing the SATs, it should not be particularly suprising - according to Education USA there are approximately 1800 Aussies doing undegrad in the US (see: [Undergraduate</a> Study in the USA](<a href=“http://melbourne.usconsulate.gov/education/undergraduate.html]Undergraduate”>http://melbourne.usconsulate.gov/education/undergraduate.html) )

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<p>Most Aussies who study over in the US however, are recruited athletes (which you may have noticed based on the people taking the SATs!)</p>