<p>I missed the past episode, mostly because I think Jake is an arse for keeping Vienna. Do any of you believe he will propose to her, and do you think that they will be together the week after the final rose ceremony.</p>
<p>He has come out and stated that people will be shocked, but if they look back over the season they will understand why. That makes me think it is Tenley.</p>
<p>My 50 buck bet, he will pull the same thing as the last bachelor, break up with who ever he proposed to and reunite with Ali.</p>
<p>I heard he picks Vienna, too. Isn’t the next episode supposed to involve his family’s help in making his selection? Who likes Vienna more than Tenley? Not me!</p>
<p>I wish he would have let Ali come back, but since he didn’t I want him to pick Tenley as well. I think he would quickly grow tired of Vienna, there is the physical attraction but no substance.</p>
<p>I know this sounds mean, but if he picks Vienna he deserves her! How can he ignore the fact that every woman in the house complained about her, unless it was pure physical attraction.</p>
<p>Vienna is 8 yrs younger than him and has no true qualities except physical beauty (BTW I don’t think she is pretty), she is the epitome of a blonde bombshell. I wonder if he did choose her and now the dirt from her ex is making him say OH CRAP!</p>
<p>He makes me scratch my head because of his relationship with Jillian. Jillian and Vienna are truly night and day!</p>
<p>Maybe he’ll do what the guy did a couple of years ago and not choose either one? The previews sort of made it look that way, with both girls crying? So who’s going to be the next Bachelorette? I think they’ll invite Ali or Tenley.</p>
<p>The spoiler alerts (google Reality Steve) have been out since early January saying that Ali will leave for work reasons, the last 2 will be Vienna and Tenley and he will pick Vienna. Ick. Knowing that and knowing what poor choice he’ll make, I can’t make myself stop watching. It’s like watching a car wreck – I can’t NOT look! And he’s so hypocritical not listening to all the advice from the other girls not to trust Vienna. Remember when he was on the Bachelorette and came back to warn Jillian? He was so upset because she didn’t listen to him!</p>
<p>Okay, now I’ve revealed a side of me I’ve tried to keep secret – I watch reality TV.</p>
<p>I know I keep thinking the same, didn’t he even fly all the way to Spain? </p>
<p>I saw Ali on Ellen the other day (thank god for Tivo) I liked her attitude because she said that she felt in the end if he really did love her he would come back for her. I wonder if she still feels the same way now knowing he supposedly picks her arch enemy. She was the one who stated early on in the show if he picks Vienna then I am wrong for him.</p>
<p>It just doesn’t make sense unless it is all physical. Jillian and Ali are personality wise the exact same, where as Vienna is their polar opposite.</p>
<p>I don’t think they will choose Tenley as the next bachelorette because she is too wallpapery. Ali is the cute bubbly girl who is techno savvy (works at Facebook) that every guy wants to bring home to Mom and Dad.</p>
<p>So did anyone see the low blow that Rosslyn hit Chris with last night? I am sure she is on the airwaves in VA today saying that Chris cheats on his wife. I give him credit for not dignifying her statement, because if she did that to me, the 1st thing I would have said is this is coming from a person who was released from ABC, and obtw you know my wife is in the audience.</p>
<p>She’s really ballsy, isn’t she? Never sheds a tear, looks nervous…always cool as a cucumber! Also by that remark she’s saying that the producer she was (not?) fooling around with had a wife! (that Chris was supposedly fooling around with)…Every time I see the preview with Vienna it creeps me out. She reminds me of a crow.</p>
<p>Wouldn’t you have loved to be in the control room when she said that, or backstage afterwards? I hope they ushered her to the door pronto, without a ride back to the hotel or the airport or wherever she was going.</p>
<p>Vienna knows what she wants and she went for it - 100%. gotta give her credit for that. What man doesn’t want to be wanted? I think that part of the attraction to her is that she does come on so strong.
That said - I hope he picks Tenley - lol.</p>
<p>I am betting with all the bad press Vienna has received in the past few weeks, within a month they will be split.</p>
<p>The fact that she emptied her ex’s checking account while he was serving in Iraq for breast implants only surfaced in the past month. Can you imagine how he feels now? I have no pity for him because all of the warning signs were there and he refused to see them. I think his lower brain had a larger part in the decision making then the upper brain did.</p>
<p>It was obvious that he still has feelings for Ali, and she for him. I could see it that night. If he was so happy with Vienna, he wouldn’t have that glassy eye look when he looked at Ali. </p>
<p>Chris Harrison yesterday said that Jake indeed asks one to marry him, that they are engaged and very happy.</p>
<p>Here would be a hoot to see for ratings…He does not propose to either Vienna or Tenley, ABC flew Ali back to St Lucia and all this time the 2 of them have been engaged! And people thought Soap Operas were unreal, maybe they are getting ideas from shows like the Bachelor!</p>
<p>I read the spoiler alert online and it seems to hold up-- plus in last week’s episode didnt anyone notice that Jake asked Vienna what kind of engagement ring she wanted? He didnt ask either of the other two girls! I think that speaks volumes. I think that Jake may be a pretty controlling guy who wants someone who looks up to him like a dad! That makes sense for picking Vienna-- anyone who looks like him and cant find love has some other problems going on–and remember-- he says the girls all dump him!! I think he is cute- but a bit robotic-- I’s love to see a psychiatric profile on him-- my radar is up !</p>
<p>I don’t put much weight into the ring and size because I think that might be an editing issue. For all we know they edited out him saying the same thing to Tenley to make us believe that Vienna is the one.</p>
<p>I do believe that he does select Vienna, I just don’t think that was a real indicator. If you saw the previews, you also saw his mother saying to Vienna, aren’t you the one that all of the girls hated?</p>
<p>Again editing…I am sure what you will see is his mother say right after that before she can answer, “I can’t understand why!”.</p>
<p>Bullet flew for the AF for many yrs, and many airline pilots are ex military, I am sure they are looking at him strange now, because as an officers wife she would never fit in! Most of them have wives like Ali and Tenley…pretty, smart and people you can take to the holiday party without being embarrassed.</p>
<p>I don’t see him as controlling, I do see him with insecurity issues and her adoration of him makes him feel good. Ali adored him, but she didn’t puff up his ego. Controlling to me means where have you been, don’t wear that, I don’t like your friends.</p>
<p>He better watch out for his checkbook because I have a sneaking suspicion that she’s into him for his job and money. The reason I say job is because, pilots for commercial airlines are gone a lot, and that gives her party time!</p>
<p>bullet, where are you getting this dirt? I guess it’s out there, but I haven’t looked.</p>
<p>Agreed not to put any stock in the ring thing. Editing.</p>
<p>Also agree Jake must have issues to be that hawt and still single. I’m not sure he’s controlling, but he definitely has a patriarchal view of life. I think he likes that Vienna is young so he gets to be the big protector. And he likes her big boobs. He likes Tenley because she’s so sweet. He’s got Madonna/whore all in one reality show.</p>
<p>The 5000 raiding of her ex-husbands account was a news maker a few weeks ago…actually I saw it on the cover of In Touch at the check out line.</p>
<p>Let me say I do not place any weight on these magazines because I always laugh at them…One will have Brad and Angelina breaking up on the cover and the other will say they are having another child.</p>
<p>However, in this case of her emptying the account, it came from the ex with docs showing the withdrawal and he proved he was in Iraq. I put credence into that, but not the other things he has stated. He is remarried and has no reason to slam her. </p>
<p>Also, Chris Harrison played dodge ball with that question which leads me to believe there is truth behind it, he was forced to acknowledge that some of the pics of her are in her younger days are not altered (not flattering…one is whip cream being licked off of her chest…UGGH!)</p>
<p>I must admit that some of my opinion is based on facts like she has stated with a giggle she wrecked 5 cars. The girl is 23, that means one every 18 mos if she started driving at 16. </p>
<p>I keep thinking of 2 couples with that age range. 8 yrs is a large difference at 23. Princess Diana and Charles, and my in-laws. It worked for my in laws, not so much for the future King. 23 and you are planning a wedding is all fun…25 and pregnant while the friends are still clubbing, not so much. 27 with 2 little ones, diapers, sleepless nights and they are still enjoying life worse yet!. She just doesn’t grab me as the girl who will be happy to go to the movies on Friday night for a 8:00 show and at home in bed by 11, while she listens to stories of her girlfriends partying and dancing with guys until 1 am.</p>
<p>I also read a funny fact somewhere on line, can’t remember where, Facebook has an I hate Vienna group with over 1K members, I wonder if Ali started it since she works for facebook.</p>